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I like the ACR, because I have one. So I'm biased now. I got mine for $2100 off GB. The Scar and HK cost more, I wouldn't trade my ACR for both of the others. Just find one that you like?
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Don't forget the Sig 516 is coming soon.Comment
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IMHO, the piston AR hasnt been improved upon in the HK line, so all you are paying for is a nice piston AR platform with a big name. If it was me I would pay the 1500-2000 for a quality piston AR.Comment
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Another one of these threads??Comment
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Originally posted by 7x57Plus, we can check out each other's hardware. Who says we can't find common ground?
Originally posted by hoffmangOriginally posted by ar15barrelsComment
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Scar, it's proven and I'm not familiar with the HK. I'm perfectly happy with my sig 556 swat, thousands of rounds thru mine and my Buddha combined without a flaw (and HE is not good about cleaning by all means, I am)
scar is my next rifle purchase!Comment
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I love my Robinson Arms XCR.
A great machined piece of beauty.
My brother tells me he didn't like the ACR because it was way too front heavy and it felt somewhat cheap.
The SCAR has a reciprocating charging handle, a polymer lower, and it takes 5 times as long to change calibers in comparison to the XCR.Comment
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The best piston guns on the market are probably LWRC
The M6a2 is probably the right one for you
Followed by the POF 415
Both are right in the 2K flat range
The 556 is HK garbage, having shot one I feel embarrassed for HK.
The LMT Defender I hear is another good rifle
again about 2K
I like the XCR but it's not something I would go into battle with given the parts supply ect.CMMG M4LEP build it out and save your money.
If you want the out the box piston rifle LWRC, POF, LMT
Heres a pic of my CMMG with some mods, you would be hard pressed to see why HK wants 2K more for the same basic action
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An Elcan Specter DR in Flat Dark Earth. I got one and it is one bass a** optic, I wouldn't trade it for anything.
How is it proven? It is completely unproven, it has seen extremely limited service for only one year and the reviews from the troops have been fairly mixed. Some have reported that the stock breaking at the plastic teeth of the button. I am sure FN still has some kinks to work out.
And I am not crapping on the weapon, there is no doubt it is great weapon. But calling it proven is like calling Obama an experienced or a successful politician.Comment
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The best piston guns on the market are probably LWRC
The M6a2 is probably the right one for you
Followed by the POF 415
Both are right in the 2K flat range
The 556 is HK garbage, having shot one I feel embarrassed for HK.
The LMT Defender I hear is another good rifle
again about 2K
I like the XCR but it's not something I would go into battle with given the parts supply ect.CMMG M4LEP build it out and save your money.
If you want the out the box piston rifle LWRC, POF, LMT
Heres a pic of my CMMG with some mods, you would be hard pressed to see why HK wants 2K more for the same basic action
Even though the discussion on this thread is for ACR, SCAR and HK, Thank You for bringing up these other brands of Gas Piston AR's. For over $1K less, my question is why these other brands mentioned by stormy are not as good?
HK is good, but waaaay overpriced and I cannot see what a LWRC, POF, LMT, CMMG and Addax cannot do what the HK can do for a lot less money.
Now for the likes of SCAR and ACR, what can't a SIG 556 or a MSAR STG 556 E4 do that these other rifles can?They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
~ Benjamin FranklinComment
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Get a piston upper from ADDAX, and spend the money you'll save over the price of the latest/bestest gear queer rifle on a good carbine class.
If I had to buy a current manufactured complete piston rifle it would be some LWRC model.
The HK, FN and ACR offerings don't really offer any great leap of performance over the old DI gear.The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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That test claims that the regular AR DI system fails every 68 rounds... Really? Seeing as our Tier 1 units still use em, I think the gun can get through three magazines...
Some pictures of the SCAR in training on the sealswcc.com site in the slide show on the home page that are pretty badass over the beach stuff for those who care. Can't copy em off the slides sorry(Guns) Addictive like meth, except you get to keep your teeth!Comment
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^I think the failure rate is due to intense sand testing, though I haven't seen exactly how torturous the test is and what they're putting these rifles through. It must be extreme for that kind of failure rate.
Most of us will probably never go through something like that on U.S. soil. I've gone through thousands of rounds in my my ARs without a hitch, but I don't drop it in sand dunes or drag it through the mud...
...still want that SCAR though. :-)sigpicComment
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