Why so many Ruger PC carbines for sale?

[jarhead714]

Because every Joe Schmuckateli and his mother owns Level IIIA body armor nowadays.

[SharedShots]

Because every Joe Schmuckateli and his mother owns Level IIIA body armor nowadays.

You'd be surprised at the number of people who have a vest for every family member with the idea they are going to hold off the krazen hoardes who picked them out of millions.

What they don't realize as no doubt you already know, that when some SHTF episode comes along, that AR, the vests and the fancy sights and the fastest magazine changes in history aren't stopping anyone, you're sitting there trying to defend a stationary position and they have freedom of movement. Check mate.

[pratchett]

To me, the Ruger PCC is the perfect HD weapon. It’s lightning fast to get on target, the ergonomics are great for me, the recoil isn’t different than a 10/22, wearing a 1k lumen light doesn’t throw off the balance, and with a micro chest rig and Freedom Week mags you can have 132 rounds on tap and still feel lightweight. The downside is you’re running a pistol round with pistol caliber terminal ballistics but I don’t care for my specific context. And a lot of guys are saying “Why would you use a PCC for HD work?” while admitting their go-to HD gun is a 9mm handgun. Like I said, I consider it a handgun that’s 10 times easier to use - and I’m no slouch with a handgun, trust me.

So short answer: I’ve no idea why anyone would sell one, but I hope they keep it up so the used market depresses the prices.

[SharedShots]

I dont rely on 9mm for HD. My primary HD guns are a Glock 22, a Glock 21, or a 12ga shotgun, whichever one I am closer to.

And the only scenario I can imagine ever needing to use a longgun to shoot outside my home is SHTF (looters, mob, arsonists, etc...) or confronted by multiple armed assailants who may be wearing soft armor. In that case I have a 556AR, AK, M1A, or 762AR to choose from. Im not fooling around with a 9mm carbine if SHTF.

Pretty much the only scenario I can imagine where I would choose 9mm, is if I had to evacuate on foot, "gray man" with minimal equipment and in that case I would take a small 9mm handgun like a Glock 19 or Shield. If I could take a longgun in a backpack, it would be a disassembled AR.

If It were legal for me to possess in CA, I would jump at the opportunity to take a suppressed 9mm SMG for HD (like a Sig MPX), but a Ruger PCC is not an SMG.
This is the only "PCC" I would be interested in:

In the first case, if you're confronted by multiple bad guys wearing soft body armor it's unlikely you are coming out of that no matter what you have. But really, you're going about daily life and the SHTF and you're going to rush to where your stash is? You aren't getting there so unless you have it with you all the time it probably isn't going to matter.

Way too many urban commandos.

In the second item, yeah, they carry or have a 9mm HG for SD/HD but wouldn't use a carbine. It's too heavy? (something else thats the common theme here). The same people start hanging lights, lasers, scopes and everything imaginable on an AR and talk about weight.

If you can't hold up a PPC or anything else weighing about the same maybe it's time to exercise and build some strength.

[HKAllTheThings]

In the first case, if you're confronted by multiple bad guys wearing soft body armor it's unlikely you are coming out of that no matter what you have. [/B]

John Wick?

[Tere_Hanges]

In the first case, if you're confronted by multiple bad guys wearing soft body armor it's unlikely you are coming out of that no matter what you have. But really, you're going about daily life and the SHTF and you're going to rush to where your stash is? You aren't getting there so unless you have it with you all the time it probably isn't going to matter.

Way too many urban commandos.

In the second item, yeah, they carry or have a 9mm HG for SD/HD but wouldn't use a carbine. It's too heavy? (something else thats the common theme here). The same people start hanging lights, lasers, scopes and everything imaginable on an AR and talk about weight.

If you can't hold up a PPC or anything else weighing about the same maybe it's time to exercise and build some strength.

You are arguing a straw man. Go back and read all the points that were made. You are obviously confused.

For HOME DEFENSE (inside the home), I prefer a .40 or .45cal handgun. So a 9mm PCC doesnt fit MY needs for defense INSIDE the home. I prefer a handgun inside my home because I can hold it with one hand, turn corners easily, and if an attacker gets their hands on me I can maintain control of the firearm and possibly acheive a contact shot more easily than a carbine.

In the extreme, highly unlikely SHTF scenario where I would have to defend myself from targets outside my home while I am stuck inside and cannot evacuate, basically backed into a corner, Im not fooling around with a 9mm carbine. That would be utterly retarded. Im picking up a 556 or 762 carbine.

[SharedShots]

You are arguing a straw man. Go back and read all the points that were made. You are obviously confused.

For HOME DEFENSE (inside the home), I prefer a .40 or .45cal handgun. So a 9mm PCC doesnt fit MY needs for defense INSIDE the home. I prefer a handgun inside my home because I can hold it with one hand, turn corners easily, and if an attacker gets their hands on me I can maintain control of the firearm and possibly acheive a contact shot more easily than a carbine.

In the extreme, highly unlikely SHTF scenario where I would have to defend myself from targets outside my home while I am stuck inside and cannot evacuate, basically backed into a corner, Im not fooling around with a 9mm carbine. That would be utterly retarded. Im picking up a 556 or 762 carbine.

It wasn't about you.

[-hanko]

I was at my local Sportsman's and got to talking to the guy at the counter. They had three ordered online by customers for $599. All three customers ended up cancelling their orders after the guns came in....

They then put them on the shelf and sold all three in two days.

Sounds to me like they are only impulse buys these days and if guys take the time to think about the purchase they end up passing.

Californians were moist with anticipation for the PC carbine...I was never sure why exactly. But California style took over.

Everybody then needed a glock with a different frame and a red dot.

Sooner or later, the Glock lust will decrease and something "new" will start the process over.

Welcome to California.

[Keith4him]

Californians were moist with anticipation for the PC carbine...I was never sure why exactly. But California style took over.

Everybody then needed a glock with a different frame and a red dot.

Sooner or later, the Glock lust will decrease and something "new" will start the process over.

Welcome to California.

I had an AR, I work in a certain profession during the whole AR registration would have caused me more headache than worth, the Ruger Carbine provides some similar uses, without the so-called scary features. My only gripe is a bit beefy, but I like the compatibility with my Glock magazines and the breakdown feature that can make it a cinch to transport.