6.5 Grendel vs 300 Blackout upper

[dwalker]

Where have I mentioned cost per round? Any gun is accurate from a sled. You still skirt the issue of 300 blackout being able to chamber in 5.56 guns. Not to be a dick, but without a sled I'm going to call bull on ARs being half MOA guns.

I have never used a sled, don't own one and have never rented or borrowed one. I use either a bipod or front bag,

Not skirting any issue, i plainly said your an idiot if you put 300 where 223 goes. Kinda like if you put gas in a diesel or use salt instead of sugar in your coffee.

[Xcountryrider]

Something like 95% of gun owners shoot only factory ammo.
Reloading is truly a niche side of the shooting hobby.
Only the most serious shooters reload.

For that other 95% of the gun owning public, the availability of ammo at their local stores is a legitimate concern when choosing a chambering for a potential new gun.

Yes but with the coming restrictions on ammo purchases i highly encourage guys on here to bit the bullet and start reloading.

[AGGRO]

I have some oddballs like 8 x 56R. I'll have two choices, reload or online which includes an ammo card and the database crap. It's a fork in the road and reloading is by far the most realistic solution for me. At least for now, who knows what's coming with the next guy.

[Mr. Torgue]

I have never used a sled, don't own one and have never rented or borrowed one. I use either a bipod or front bag,

Not skirting any issue, i plainly said your an idiot if you put 300 where 223 goes. Kinda like if you put gas in a diesel or use salt instead of sugar in your coffee.

Well, I'm unless I see it with my own eyes, I'm calling bs on having half MOA ARs. People love to exaggerate their groupings. Also, in case you had no idea, brass 7.62x39 is the same price as 300 blackout.

[TMB 1]

Well, I'm unless I see it with my own eyes, I'm calling bs on having half MOA ARs. People love to exaggerate their groupings. Also, in case you had no idea, brass 7.62x39 is the same price as 300 blackout.

Where at? Lowest price I see at Midway for 7.62x39 brass is 40 cents a piece. lowest price at Midway for 300 Blackout brass is 18 cents a piece.

[sigstroker]

Forget a cockamamie setup like Grendel in an AR. You can probably buy a decent bolt gun in a legit hunting caliber for less money than an upper.

[crufflers]

In addition to the PSA uppers you can get as low as $159 shipped, even places like Cabela's has item like the Anderson complete 300 Blackout upper for $299.99 or under $210 if you use gift cards and Active Junky. They also have a CMMG barrel and gas block/gas tube kit for $189 / $132.

[dwalker]

Well, I'm unless I see it with my own eyes, I'm calling bs on having half MOA ARs. People love to exaggerate their groupings. Also, in case you had no idea, brass 7.62x39 is the same price as 300 blackout.

You need to get out more. I posted a pic of my group, I can post moe. You are welcome to meet me at the range and shoot my gun. There are multiple members here who have shot with me and several that have shot my guns. My rifles shoot, or they get fixed. Anything over MOA is unacceptable, even with blaster 55gr.

7.62x39 is not cheap, and not nearly as cheap as .300blk.

I get that your guns do not shoot, but do not come in here saying because your gun wont shoot better than a 4" group mine won't.

[dwalker]

Forget a cockamamie setup like Grendel in an AR. You can probably buy a decent bolt gun in a legit hunting caliber for less money than an upper.

Performance wise the Grendel is a very legit hunting caliber, as is the 300Blk.

[crufflers]

Cabela's has the Fiocci 25 pack of 125 grain SST for .66 per round if you use 24% off (giftcards+4% AJ).

Also the 50 pack of 150 grain FMJ BT is .577 per round same deal.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/FIOCCHI-BLACKOUT-AMMO/1921166.uts?searchPath=%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FcategoryId%3D734095080%26CQ_search%3D300%2Bblackout

[crufflers]

Australian Defense 144 grain FMJ come out to about .53 per round or $10.63 a box if you have gift cards. $13.99 without cards or AJ.

ADI 125 grain SMK's are about $12.15 per box cheapest (.60 per round).

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=2031413&categoryId=0&parentCategoryId=0&subCategoryId=0&indexId=0&productVariantId=4196982&quantity=1&itemGUID=10835c3fac1084581cf497b94b28a3f1&destination=%2Fcheckout%2Fitem_added_to_cart.jsp%3Fresult%3Dsuccess%26categoryIds%3D104792580%257C104691780%257C104532480%257C%26productId%3D2031413%26WT.z_btnclk%3DProduct%26WT.z_pg_ref%3Dprd2031413%26backToPreviousUrl%3D%252Fcatalog%252Fproduct.jsp%253FproductId%253D2031413%26WTz_l%3DProduct

[dwalker]

Australian Defense 144 grain FMJ come out to about .53 per round or $10.63 a box if you have gift cards. $13.99 without cards or AJ.

ADI 125 grain SMK's are about $12.15 per box cheapest (.60 per round.

That is not a bad deal at all for a SMK round. Wonder how that compares to the 5.56 PMC 77grSMK round

[crufflers]

That is not a bad deal at all for a SMK round. Wonder how that compares to the 5.56 PMC 77grSMK round

Yeah no idea, but I bet they are about

125 grain @ 2200 fps
77 grain @ 2600 fps

I think the 125's are worth trying at that price. Other brands like Gorilla are $28 / $1.40

[crufflers]

The 77 grain OTM SSA Nosler stuff is $14.24 or $10.82 per box with discounts = .54 per round

http://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/ammunition/rifle-ammunition%7C/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104532480/ssa-rifle-ammo/2125494.uts?slotId=5

[crufflers]

This stuff might be worth a try for $80 per 250 rounds bulk (.32 per round)

http://www.midamericamunitions.com/300-AAC-Blackout-150gr-PP-Qty-250-High-Quality--Consistent--Accurate_p_143.html

Shipping on 1000 rounds makes it .35 per round though