Gap between featureless grip and stock

[rayrayz]

That is interesting....

I have a couple of those coming. I will have to make sure :-(

[edgerly779]

Uncomfortable ugly gizmo. Use a hammerhead ergonomically ground and get a grip on your ar. Ditch the a2 stock and pinned a collapsible so there is room for thumb and web of hand.

[DrewTheBrave]

Why in gods name would you even try and shoot your rifle like that? Lol.


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The mere fact that he COULD is cause for concern - legally speaking.

A grip fin that more closely follows the contour of the A2 stock would be preferred.

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[peppermintman]

Dude you need a Ca Hera Stock...LOL...you won't be able to reach around that one

Hahaha! I bet you he'll try )
That's going way overboard on that ! Worder what exactly he likes, prefers

[TMB 1]

Yeah here you guys go

Maybe cut it at more of an angle so your thumb can slide further up above trigger.

[Nguyen]

And probably a happy girlfriend too.

or happy boy friend.... i aint judging.

[therealnickb]

Maybe cut it at more of an angle so your thumb can slide further up above trigger.

Doesn't solve the problem if you can still hold it like he is.

[TMB 1]

Doesn't solve the problem if you can still hold it like he is.

Seemed to me if it was at more of an angle you couldn't hold it like that with the thumb down so far because your thumb would slide up. Idk though would have to try it.

[therealnickb]

Seemed to me if it was at more of an angle you couldn't hold it like that with the thumb down so far because your thumb would slide up. Idk though would have to try it.

I hear you, but I'm not seeing it. The fin simply needs to be wide enough that you can't get your thumb around it.

[TuxedoOnATShirt]

wait just a MINUTE!!! Why isn't the safety on?

[LowThudd]

wait just a MINUTE!!! Why isn't the safety on?

Cuz he can't reach it with his thumb. Duh! lol

[haza12d]

I guess my setup is questionable then? I can put my thumb up through the section above the fin but the web of my hand, between my thumb and index finger, sits above the top portion of the exposed trigger.



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[Kwikvette]

^ I'd venture to say it's ok just like the Thordsen stock and a few others that require you to hold the rifle in such a manner. The webbing of your hand would be above the fictitious line of legal vs illegal.

Refer to V8MERC124's post.

[HollowOfHaze]

I'm pretty sure there's something about the web of your thumb being below the exposed portion of the trigger. I'm pretty sure the furthest joint of your thumb doesn't count as the web of your thumb.

[Citizen One]

With due respect to all here, I believe you all may be incorrect.

Thumb placement does not matter in determining a "pistol grip" according to the DOJ circa 2000. The regulations are intentionally vague and arbitrary in order to selectively enforce the law. Them doing so is a constitutional law violation, but hey -- we live in California.

Credit due to Resurgent Arms for the legal research. I suggest his product or the Exile Hammerhead. The Resurgent Arms is designed directly on testimony from a DOJ agent that explicitly exculpated the Exile Hammerhead. Both are as close to kosher as possible without explicit opinion letters from the DOJ... for which law-abiding citizens are no longer responded to because it's "not their job", because hey -- we live in California.

https://www.exilemachine.net

https://www.resurgentarms.com

SB23 Final Statement for Reasons

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/regs/fsor.pdf