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  • #16
    FIREBALL_BRIAN
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 2379

    you tube video of the removal and install.
    all drop ins are very easy
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    • #17
      m850168
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 852

      I've done a couple Giessele installs, it's really, really easy. You need a third hand or vise to get the second pin in while you compress the hammer but that's about it.

      The drop in trigger packs are even easier. You can do the install yourself for sure.

      Regarding Giessele specifically, I have an SSA and a G2S; both are great. Feel the same to me. If I was buying another trigger it would probably be the G2S; great trigger and great price.

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      • #18
        SFCRangerDoc
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 829

        I am a HUGE fan of the RRA match trigger. It doesnt cost an arm and a leg, it took me 5 mins to put in and took my gritty GI trigger and turned it into a nice 2 stage match trigger for 62 bucks... both me and my brother have them and can not say enough good about them. Website says 4.5-5lb pull...based on what i know...it feels more like 3.5-4 tops


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        • #19
          milotrain
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 4301

          Geissele makes a great trigger. It's as good as match triggers for bolt rifles.
          I also like the RRA NM trigger, it is excellent for the price and while the rumors that it will slowly lose it's second stage are true they will replace or fix it for free during. You can buy a pair of RRA NM triggers for less than the best Geissele triggers. JBO has the RRA NM for $100 or as part of a full parts kit for $150. You can't beat that with a stick.

          I ran an RRA NM for a while and went to a Geissele Hi Speed NM trigger and was actually really surprised at how little changed. I like the Geissele management of overtravel, adjustability and exceptional lifespan, but it's only about a 10% better feeling trigger than the RRA NM.
          weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
          frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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          • #20
            9kracing
            Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 406

            Lantac's new triggers are made by CMC.
            **WTB Northtech Defense upper receiver**

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            • #21
              Ki6vsm
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 2351

              As said, decide if you want a 2-stage or 1-stage trigger and go from there. It's the most important decision.

              The "basic" CMCs (under $200) are single stage. Supposed to be great triggers. The fact that they drop in is neat, but unless you are changing triggers a lot, that convenience doesn't matter. Regular trigger groups are pretty easy to install also.

              Big difference between ALG and true Geissele triggers, in design and price. The ALGs are "tuned" GI type semi-auto (single-stage) triggers. Most of the Geissele's are are 2-stage. I have two of each brand.
              • Love the SSA-Enhanced for a precision trigger.
              • I have the G2S in another rifle. It's okay, but not as crisp as my White Oak tuned RRA match trigger. The G2S does have a tiny bit of noticeable creep; the WOA-RRA does not.
              • My ALG ACT trigger is pretty amazing for a "factory type" trigger.
              • My ALG QMS trigger is pretty terrible. I'm not using it anymore. Might be hit and miss with all these ALG triggers. I could have gotten a particularly good ACT and a QMS that somehow made it off their line w/o any work what so ever being done to it.

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              • #22
                larkja
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 1362

                I picked up a CMC a couple months ago - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/305...ProductFinding

                I also installed the non rotating trigger pins - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/528...ProductFinding

                The two are a great combination and very easy to install.

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                • #23
                  russ69
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 9348

                  Originally posted by Ki6vsm
                  As said, decide if you want a 2-stage or 1-stage trigger and go from there. It's the most important decision. The "basic" CMCs (under $200) are single stage. Supposed to be great triggers. The fact that they drop in is neat, but unless you are changing triggers a lot, that convenience doesn't matter...
                  This. Yes you need to tell us what you do with your AR if you want the proper recommendation.
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                  • #24
                    AreWeFree
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 4558

                    OP, I have many different triggers, they're all decent and a few are amazing, but the return on investment may be the most important to you.

                    Considering value, I'd recommend this trigger, it'll be as good or better than CMC, Timney, or Geissele, and less expensive. http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/POF_.../pof-00457.htm

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                    • #25
                      ocabj
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 7910

                      Geissele for life.

                      Distinguished Rifleman #1924
                      NRA Certified Instructor (Rifle and Metallic Cartridge Reloading) and RSO
                      NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

                      https://www.ocabj.net

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                      • #26
                        stix213
                        AKA: Joe Censored
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 18998

                        This is why assembling your own lower rather than buying a complete rifle is so valuable, since you build confidence to do relatively simple modifications like swapping a trigger.

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                        • #27
                          Merc1138
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19742

                          Originally posted by stix213
                          This is why assembling your own lower rather than buying a complete rifle is so valuable, since you build confidence to do relatively simple modifications like swapping a trigger.
                          I'm not sure I 100% agree with that. Yeah, assembling your own does get you familiar enough to realize that even a caveman can do it(installing a trigger group anyway). But the OP will get the same confidence simply by doing it himself with his existing rifle. All it really boils down to is that it's something he hasn't done, he needs to just suck it up and do it, and then he'll realize how simple it is.

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                          • #28
                            vanillagurilla
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 54

                            I run the cmc 3.5 flat trigger and it's great, I cant see a trigger that costs twice the price being twice as good or even 30% better. My Brother shot It and loves it as well. The trigger group can seem intimidating but once you get into it and realize it's only 3 parts, it's no big deal.

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                            • #29
                              stix213
                              AKA: Joe Censored
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 18998

                              Originally posted by Merc1138
                              I'm not sure I 100% agree with that. Yeah, assembling your own does get you familiar enough to realize that even a caveman can do it(installing a trigger group anyway). But the OP will get the same confidence simply by doing it himself with his existing rifle. All it really boils down to is that it's something he hasn't done, he needs to just suck it up and do it, and then he'll realize how simple it is.
                              Yeah my point was just that right now he is a bit afraid to even try. If he had installed the LPK in the first place he wouldn't have even started this thread. True though that after he does the install he will be more confidant, but what if he wants to swap his safety or buffer tube next?

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                              • #30
                                wurger
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 1433

                                Originally posted by MarkG35
                                Don't get a Geisselle you will be spoiled for anything else.
                                This.

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