Anzio Ironworks 20MM Take Down Rifle

[sb_pete]

I think the Croatians or one of those Yugo type people had made guns like this, I want one!

And of course there is the Lathi 20mm, sold at one time in the USA.

Yep:

There's also:
- The Coratian RT 20. That thing has a giant "reactive tube" above the barrel which bleeds off gas to act as a counter recoil.
- The Finnish Helenius APH-20
- The South African NTW-20
- The Hungarian APH RK20
- The Barrett XM-109 is semi-auto but it is in friggin 25mm! (well 25x59mm but still!)

- And of course there is big daddy old school Lahti L-39 Anti-tank rifle shooting 20mmx138mm Solothurn for those days when masochistic doesn't even begin to describe it. Solothurn is significantly more powerful than 20x102mm Vulcan. The Swiss Solothurn S-18/1000 is another beast in the same vein.

[brando]

FWIW, the 20mm Vulcan isn't a very good round ballistically. It's big and slow whereas the Soviet 14.5mm is FAR superior still having significantly more mass than a .50BMG as well as velocity over 3000fps.

But this is obviously just a big fun boom stick anyway.

[sb_pete]

^ Yeah,I think this thing is just kind of "because I can." It doesn't have any real practical use in these days of much lighter and more portable anti armor rockets.

That said, they do offer it in 14.5mm Russian for the very reason. you mention.

They also offer a 20mm/.50 BMG hybrid that launches .50BMG rounds out of a necked down 20mm vulcan case in order to skirt around NFA rules.

[brando]

The problem is the 14.5mm is a DD in the same vein as the 20mm. I wonder if the 50/20mm hybrid is the McMillan FatMac...the ultimate fouling round

[ke6guj]

The 14.5mm Russian is DD, but the 14.5mmJDJ is not a DD. It is a .50BMG necked up to 14.5 and has an ATF exemption.

And since 14.5mm is less than .60, neither is a CA DD, so you don't need CADOJ permission.

You could possibly just buy the receiver from Anzio, and Form 1 into a DD, and then order the barrel/bolt from Anzio to make it a 14.5mm Russian if you wanted to. Assuming they would work with you on it.

[tyrist]

The trauma a 20mm would cause on a living creature would be....well.....I cannot imagine you surving such a wound no matter where it hit you.

[bohoki]

Deplete uranium doesn't fragment nearly as well as jacketed 5.56 rounds. It's the main reason our military doesn't switch over to the 20mm for urban combat.........

yea but imagine being able to fire an 80 grain projectile that is the same size as a 55gn fmj

[sb_pete]

yea but imagine being able to fire an 80 grain projectile that is the same size as a 55gn fmj

huh, lower MV + lower BC = good how?

[Jpach]

The diameter of the 20mm would tear a very big hole without expanding. If it hit bone, the bone would break. Not in the same league when it comes to effective range.

I know this is an old thread but I came across this in a new 20mm thread. I will now respond to your response.

I can almost guaruntee that a 20mm would royally **** someone up even if it hit them in the stomach without hitting bone. And Im not just talking about a smooth 20mm hole. The temporary cavity would probably be bigger than what the human body will allow and I honestly think the torso would split or the belly would tear open with lots of guts hanging out or shredded. Try shooting a jackrabbit with regular FMJ .223. They Fing explode. I have pictures of it if yalls want me to post. The belly popped open and bloot and guts were shooting out. The bunny's intestines were even rapped around one of its legs. Imagine something that has about 40K ft/lbs of energy hitting you. Its in a league of its own fellers

[Greenspartan117]

I know this is an old thread but I came across this in a new 20mm thread. I will now respond to your response.

I can almost guaruntee that a 20mm would royally **** someone up even if it hit them in the stomach without hitting bone. And Im not just talking about a smooth 20mm hole. The temporary cavity would probably be bigger than what the human body will allow and I honestly think the torso would split or the belly would tear open with lots of guts hanging out or shredded. Try shooting a jackrabbit with regular FMJ .223. They Fing explode. I have pictures of it if yalls want me to post. The belly popped open and bloot and guts were shooting out. The bunny's intestines were even rapped around one of its legs. Imagine something that has about 40K ft/lbs of energy hitting you. Its in a league of its own fellers

Even imaging a 20mm hole in ones body is devastating, the amount of nerves and blood vessels destroyed would amount to shock and death by blood loss easily. Then take into account the effect that the impact would have on the skeletal system, and on major organs which for intensive purposes, are fluid filled...

If I had to choose the caliber to get shot with, I would choose .177 from a cheap Norinco air rifle...

Greenspartan117

[bombadillo]

would that qualify as a decent dear gun?

Yep, the letter will state: "Dear (insert name here), wish we would have gotten along better......BANG"

[offrdmania]

Maybe I shouldnt post this but here is a pic of my 30mm which they use on the A-10 Warthogs. Keep in mind that this round is almost 12" long and 1.75" in diameter. It dwarfs the 20mm.



And this is a 30mm next to a 20mm (blue tip) Yeah, I have a little collection as paperweights

[JoeC]

Thats crazy!

Can you imagine a round of that size running through a gun at this speed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sALiuWg_I1k

[offrdmania]

Ill make it easier

[JoeC]

Ill make it easier

Hehe thanks. I'm used to forums where they don't allow video embeds.