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  • bombadillo
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 14810

    I can spot my own shots with my rifle as low as 100 yards and have no problem at all with recoil. This thing (especially in the chassis now) shoots like puttycat punch.

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    • Euphoria526
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 3812

      Originally posted by glock_this
      I see most of the photos posted up have no muzzle device. Why is this? Just not needed on a rifle like this?

      Makes me wonder why they offer the SilencerCo Saker Trifecta muzzle brake on the new MVP LC? For quick follow up shots? But how quick could you be on bolt action to even need a muzzle brake for a follow up shot? Or am I missing it's purpose entirely and why they offer it?
      Hey man, when you get a rhythm going with that bolt, you can get a good strong happening if you try.
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      I think flatulence is a more serious crime. I think it should be a misdemeanor with a 1000 dollar fine or 6 months of jail. It should be a felony if done near an open flame.

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      • glock_this
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2005
        • 8225

        Originally posted by Euphoria526
        Hey man, when you get a rhythm going with that bolt, you can get a good strong happening if you try.
        So you are confirming they put that muzzle brake on there for quick follow up shots?

        Bolt action would be/are new to me and so I have no frame of reference. I see the value of muzzle brakes on other weapons with quick immediate follow up shots. But just want to be clear I understand it's point/value in a bolt action.
        10 +1 in the chamber

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        • bombadillo
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2007
          • 14810

          Most people put brakes on their bolt actions to keep a recoil down to spot shots, keep a steady rhythm like Euphoria526 said, and generally keep flinch down. It does a great deal on a bolt action, but get a good brake, don't cheap out.

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          • glock_this
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2005
            • 8225

            Well, I would likely consider the brake they offer then (if the reviews are solid, but too early to worry about that just yet since they are not retail rifles yet).

            But I intend to do a good riser or scope rings (because it is easy to cheap out on those) IF needed and a nice scope (Eliminator III 4-16x in my case).

            Thanks for the info, want to try to get my research done now so I know what to order.

            Any opinions on 16.25" versus 18.25" barrel length for 5.56?

            Edit: an article I found confirmed an earlier assumption of mine - 5.56 is the 16.25" barrel. So now I wonder if 1:7 twist is the only option for 5.56 & the 1:10 is for 7.62.

            Edit 2: so yes, it seems 1:7 is the set twist for the 5.56 and 1:10 for the 7.62. So now, just need to understand the best round grain for that 5.56, 16.25" barrel in 1:7 twist for best accuracy over longest reasonable shot of say 1000ish yards.
            Last edited by glock_this; 02-02-2015, 6:24 PM.
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            • 3RDGEARGRNDRR
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 900

              ANY MOSSBERG MVP TALO OWNERS OUT THERE?
              CA: Exorcising my 2A rights

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              • glock_this
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2005
                • 8225

                Originally posted by spamsucker
                ok, my turn then:
                LSS, MOE stock, DPMS PSG-1 grip, Harris bi-pod, jard 12 oz trigger (not pictured), SWFA 16x42 SS, 20MOA base, Burris Sig Series Rings. This is my squirrel rig. I have done 900m with it and it's boringly accurate. Groups are consistently between .20" - .75".



                It's a 9 twist gun. I use up to 75 grain bullets with it. 900m is easily accomplished with 70-75gn pills seated to be fed from the mag. There's no need to go with a faster twist. 1:8 only buys you 5-10grains more bullet weight which gets you almost nothing ballistically. 1:7 twist would let you do 90gn bullets but they're never going to be mag length and the throat on a MVP by default isn't long enough to deal with them (at least on mine) being seated to a useful length even for single feeding. 9 twist is right for the .223 in the long barrel version. The short barrel version might actually benefit from a 7 or 8 twist.
                The 5.56 is 16.25" barrel and I believe 1:7 twist (7.62 gets the 18.5" and 1:10 I believe). So ideally, if this is true, what would be best round grain for that 5.56, 16.25" barrel in 1:7 twist for best accuracy over longest reasonable shot of say 1000ish yards?
                Last edited by glock_this; 02-02-2015, 6:25 PM.
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                • deckhandmike
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 8325

                  Any left handed rumors?

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                  • glock_this
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 8225

                    Originally posted by deckhandmike
                    Any left handed rumors?
                    In reference to the new LC not that I have seen. I've watched all the Shot Show vids, read near all web articles, reviewed their site, watched all YouTube vids and I've seen/heard not lefty mentions.
                    10 +1 in the chamber

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                    • bombadillo
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 14810

                      Originally posted by deckhandmike
                      Any left handed rumors?


                      That is a big no-go unfortunately.

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                      • glock_this
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 8225

                        My LGS tells me the MVP LC is in the distributor system, but no ETAon availability. I figured maybe 1-2 months before availability. When so, I intend to order it up and build my first (and likely only ever) bolt action.
                        10 +1 in the chamber

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                        • FMJBT
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 4888

                          Originally posted by glock_this
                          The 5.56 is 16.25" barrel and I believe 1:7 twist (7.62 gets the 18.5" and 1:10 I believe). So ideally, if this is true, what would be best round grain for that 5.56, 16.25" barrel in 1:7 twist for best accuracy over longest reasonable shot of say 1000ish yards?
                          With a 5.56 out of a 16.25" barrel, you're not going to see 1000 yards. Not accurately anyway. Max range with that setup before going subsonic and tumbling will be around 800-850 yards. Your best bet for long range bullets that will fit in a magazine will be the Nosler or Sierra 77's or Hornady 75 BTHP. The Hornady bullets have a slightly better BC than the 77's, but tend to be somewhat more sensitive to seating depth so you may have to experiment to find an overall length that gets good accuracy.
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                          • glock_this
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 8225

                            Originally posted by FMJBT
                            With a 5.56 out of a 16.25" barrel, you're not going to see 1000 yards. Not accurately anyway. Max range with that setup before going subsonic and tumbling will be around 800-850 yards. Your best bet for long range bullets that will fit in a magazine will be the Nosler or Sierra 77's or Hornady 75 BTHP. The Hornady bullets have a slightly better BC than the 77's, but tend to be somewhat more sensitive to seating depth so you may have to experiment to find an overall length that gets good accuracy.

                            I figured 1000 would be on the high side and best case scenario. I was more making the point that I have 100-200 yard rifles, I don't want that here at all. I want to take the longest shots this rifle is capable of - that is it's point. So, I just said 1000. So 800-850 is fine if that is what this rifle, the scope I want, and a good long range purpose bullet is capable of.

                            My goal on the bullet question is to get say 2-3 recommendations, buy say 50 rounds of each and try each and see what I think. But I need some starting points as I am clueless on a setup like this so the input helps, thank!

                            ps - this is a weapon I would take down and sight in at South Bay Rod & Gun Club.
                            Last edited by glock_this; 02-07-2015, 9:25 AM.
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                            • Californio
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 4169

                              Ok, owners of the MDT LSS MVP 5.56 chassis, any problems with magazines, I see a 30 round magazine, can you cycle-fire-cycle 28 times, without failure to feed, fire or eject issues?

                              Interested in your experience with this setup.
                              Last edited by Californio; 02-07-2015, 9:53 AM.
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                              • ElvenSoul
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 17431

                                Originally posted by Californio
                                Ok, owners of the MDT LSS MVP 5.56 chassis, any problems with magazines, I see a 30 round magazine, can you cycle-fire-cycle 28 times, without failure to feed, fire or eject issues?

                                Interested in your experience with this setup.
                                Out here in Texas I have been able to blast all 20 rounds out of m14 mags with my MVP Prrdator 7.62.
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