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  • #16
    crackerman
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 2441

    All good answers, but yeah I think I am a different type of shooter than the progression of a lot of people. I started on teh spacey, plastic guns and have gone to wood and blue steel instead of the other way. Heck I even sell some of my guns to buy fewer of them. Its just a different path most people take and many don't make the change to "traditional" bolt rifles until later or ever.
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    • #17
      EminenceGrise
      Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 119

      a) it's generally more expensive. heck the stocks that some people put on their bolt guns cost more than an entire AR-15 build, or at least the one I just built. Don't judge me. Don't even look at the cost of ammo, 5.56 ammo is pretty widely available and not terribly expensive.
      b) shooting a bolt gun is a much more ... how to put it, methodical? Cerebral? A lot more work goes into each shot compared to BLAM BLAM BLAM I GOT THE SQUIRREL!

      (I'm talking about bolt guns for target shooting, not hunting, which obviously has it's own sub forum as mentioned above).

      It makes sense that there would be fewer discussions, and there's a lot less political activity surrounding bolt guns. Wait till De Loon figures out that somebody can pick him off from 1,000 yards away while he's waxing poetic about the dangers of "ghost guns".
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      • #18
        russ69
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2009
        • 9348

        Basically precision rifles are a small segment of firearms interest. When you go to a gun store that might have a few good rifles, they will sure as heck have a wall full of ARs. Good bolt rifles are a rare breed in most gun safes. Then if you look at bench rest guns, it's the 1% of the 1%. Very few are into bolt guns at this level.
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        • #19
          HK Dave
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2008
          • 5737

          I think part of it has to do with the fact that precision marksmanship is serious business... takes a lot of effort, a steep learning curve and lots of devotion.

          Buying an AR and going bang bang bang every few months doesn't exactly take any skill... but it sure relieves stress for a lot of folks. :P

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          • #20
            alfred1222
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2010
            • 7331

            We get WAY better posts in this sub then there are in semi. I dont go to semi just because i dont want to read all the crap posted there. Here, its good topics. Also, personally, i think precision rifle shooting requires more skill and commitment then shooting an AR or AK does
            Originally posted by Kestryll
            This guy is a complete and total idiot.
            /thread.

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            • #21
              CobraRed
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 1018

              My coworker was looking into a remington bolt so I took him to one of my shooting spots. Shot my dead nuts accurate .308 seated and prone then shot my friends AR missing and hitting about 50/50. Never thought about a bolt again.

              Squeeze, recoil, repeat. Thats all some really want.

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              • #22
                TMB 1
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2012
                • 7153

                I think rm1911 pretty much nailed it, that and if its not precision/comp rifle might as well have an AR attitude.
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                • #23
                  ElvenSoul
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 17431

                  Black Powder is where the real challenge is.

                  The cure for mosinitus is a high price tag!
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                  • #24
                    NordicDave
                    Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 203

                    Originally posted by CobraRed
                    My coworker was looking into a remington bolt so I took him to one of my shooting spots. Shot my dead nuts accurate .308 seated and prone then shot my friends AR missing and hitting about 50/50. Never thought about a bolt again.
                    I had exactly the same experience with a friend/co-worker. He shot my quality AR and one of the better AK's (both pre-ban), then the R700 LTR and would not let go of the LTR for the remainder of the afternoon.

                    -NordicDave

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                    • #25
                      JMP
                      Internet Warrior
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 17056

                      Originally posted by Merc1138
                      Better answers, and typically better questions asked by people who at least tried to look up common information on their own first. Let's just go down the list of the semi auto threads...

                      ID'ng a random gun show junk upper.
                      AR makes his shoulder dirty
                      Someone not quite clear on "swapping" an AK receiver
                      What scope mount to use with an AR
                      How to lube an AR(because there aren't enough results for that on google)
                      New Sig556
                      Fancy NiB BCG problems
                      Which comp to use
                      Cant get mags to fit
                      Mini-14 needs warranty service
                      What to include in an AR build
                      Failure to understand an ejector(that happens to be busted)
                      Possible saiga deal
                      Crappy rimfire ammo
                      Is this mall ninja folding angled sights
                      The double barreled AR-15 for the 293rd time

                      That's not even halfway down the first page, it just kind if repeats ad nauseum. That's not to say the manually operated forum is perfect, there's lots of "which one to buy" threads that could easily be answered within a few minutes of just reading existing threads, but every forum is going to have that.
                      ^This. And, I am pretty sure I am not welcome in the semi forum. One cannot speak candidly of AR-15s without inflicting severe hurt feelings.

                      In the semi forum, here is a translation of the lingo:
                      gunsmith = being able to piece together a crappy AR
                      ballistics expert = being able to pull the handle of a reloading press and/or operating a red dot or BCD reticle
                      long distance precision shooter = being able to shoot 1 MOA at 300 yards with an AR anchored to a bench

                      I'd say that this subforum is a little heavy on Remington 700 threads, but they are good guns.

                      Plus, in this subforum ar15barrels can be a more effective moderator since there is less traffic.

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                      • #26
                        6mmintl
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 4822

                        The Bolt gun forum caters to accuracy shooting, proper techniques, equipment choices and longer distance shooting by more mature seasoned shooters.

                        The Semi auto forum is mostly young shooters with very limited long distance shooting experience, a lot seem to be into AK soviet bloc weapons/bling equipment and accessories, and mostly short distance 50/100 yard firing line shooting. I have found they tend to be a more sensitive group having been banned from there forum for hurting a few feelings.

                        I have tried on many occasions to invite some of them out to longer distance shooting with their AK's, SKS's (I have two) and the 300BO/7.62x39mm cartridge guns/platforms (I have one) and they are stubbornly locked into a CQB mentality awaiting for the Zombie apocalypse whenever that is supposed to happen.

                        A larger majority are sensible first time buyers/builders of semi-auto rifles wanting to learn good reloading, accuracy, and sighting equipment, I fear the mall ninja's may force them into a retail therapy addiction of accessorizing before proper equipment purchase.

                        Two different trains running on the same track.

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                        • #27
                          bill_k_lopez
                          Banned
                          • May 2011
                          • 2836

                          VOTE for a single shot section.

                          < 1%?
                          Last edited by bill_k_lopez; 01-22-2014, 1:13 PM.

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                          • #28
                            6mmintl
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 4822

                            Originally posted by ElvenSoul
                            Black Powder is where the real challenge is.

                            The cure for mosinitus is a high price tag!
                            Black Powder, or black powder cartridge rifles pre 1900 is now my cup of tea having done the High Power, Long range, modern rifle competition for many years.

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                            • #29
                              6mmintl
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 4822

                              Originally posted by bill_k_lopez
                              VOTE for a single shot section.
                              You don't want to know how many single shots I have, and I shoot most of them out to 600 yards.

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                              • #30
                                6mmintl
                                Veteran Member
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 4822

                                [QUOTE=EmptyMags;13260274]Get with the times, ya' Fudds! Semi-auto or nothing!

                                What's a FUDD? Its not some derogatory negative acronym is it? or is it just a reference to Elmore Fudd of cartoon fame? yea, that must be it right?

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