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  • #46
    bombadillo
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 14810

    And for those who say you CAN'T build one for 1k, here is a guy who did just that. There is a thread called "help me build a good .308" or something like that and he put a nice savage together out of a stevens 200. Good lookin gun at that for the price.



    His name is lone wolf (with some numbers after it)

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    • #47
      MongooseV8
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 4426

      Last time we did this Postal you literally said a 243 will be shot out by 1k rounds. Either way you are simply copy/pasting internet words. I am using real life experience. The only point I'm trying to get you to ponder is that you keep making blanket statements about barrel life that simply are not reality for the average shooter.

      Also telling someone they need to shoot 5-7k rounds through a barrel before seeing any benefits from an aftermarket barrel is just silly. I have seen plenty of new shooters shoot several hundred rounds through a stock barrel, then upgrade and shoot better groups.

      I'm not really trying to argue, I just don't want all these new shooters blindly absorbing fud.

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      • #48
        TMB 1
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2012
        • 7153

        OP also don't believe the you'll have to burn a couple barrels out before you're any good. Some people are faster learners than others and you just might be another Roy Hobbs a natural.
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        • #49
          postal
          Banned
          • Mar 2008
          • 4566

          Originally posted by MongooseV8
          Last time we did this Postal you literally said a 243 will be shot out by 1k rounds. Either way you are simply copy/pasting internet words. I am using real life experience. The only point I'm trying to get you to ponder is that you keep making blanket statements about barrel life that simply are not reality for the average shooter.

          Also telling someone they need to shoot 5-7k rounds through a barrel before seeing any benefits from an aftermarket barrel is just silly. I have seen plenty of new shooters shoot several hundred rounds through a stock barrel, then upgrade and shoot better groups.

          I'm not really trying to argue, I just don't want all these new shooters blindly absorbing fud.
          I normally state 2k+ rounds on 243. The last time this topic came up, I linked to 6mmbr.com back then too....

          As to a new shooter benefit from a better barrel... well it depends on the game they want to play. Some learn faster than others but the game I like to play, 5k rounds is just getting started and having a good idea of what to do. But maybe sitting on a comfy bench with front and rear bags blowing up varmints is easier than the game I like to play.

          At a claimed 15k rounds a year, you should hit 2+k on that 243 in a month or 2. Let us know how well its grouping then.... and prove me wrong when you hit 2.5k.
          Last edited by postal; 11-05-2013, 5:25 PM.

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          • #50
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 56856

            Originally posted by MongooseV8
            In that particular rifle a Nosler 55 grainer behind a whole bunch of Varget in a Lapua case doing just under 4k fps. I dont have 3k rounds through that barrel though....just well over the 1k Postal claims is garbage can time.
            In my experience of burning out a few 243 barrels, they last between 1500 and 2000 rounds before they are completely untrustworthy.
            Some people keep shooting them much longer than that, but personally, I can't afford to have a bullet zing 3/4 moa out of the normal group as it could cost me a match.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #51
              MongooseV8
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 4426

              And that makes sense in a long range paper match. Postal seems to think I need to go through my inventory and start replacing barrels because they have x ammount of rounds through them with zero exceptions.

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              • #52
                elsolo
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 4798

                Originally posted by MongooseV8
                Haha so the op shouldn't roll an aftermarket barrel because he will "burn it out" before learning anything? That is pretty silly. Don't buy that $300 barrel because after $5000 worth of ammo it will be time to replace that tube. 99% of shooters will never shoot out a barrel in any firearm their entire life.
                How many rounds is $5000 ???

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                • #53
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 56856

                  Originally posted by elsolo
                  How many rounds is $5000 ???
                  4000 rounds of federal gold medal match 308 ammo.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #54
                    elsolo
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 4798

                    Damn, I haven't kept up with factory loaded ammo prices, that's crazy.

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                    • #55
                      HK Dave
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5737

                      Beginning of the year, FGMM 308 was going for $1.75 a round. :P

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                      • #56
                        Wrangler John
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1799

                        Barrels are like automotive brake linings, the heavier the load, the faster you go and quicker you stop the sooner they wear out. Heat and friction are the deciding factors. That's why once I learned to relax and build swap barrel rifles, my life became less troubled. Barrels are like brake pads and rotors, with a full professional replacement costing about as much as a rebarrel, it's a maintenance cost. So erode that throat, singe that steel, and don't worry about a thing, fun and games costs money. Besides, old throwaway barrels make great jack handles, towel racks for the cabin, or coffee table legs.

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                        • #57
                          sl0re10
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7242

                          Originally posted by Mineralogy Mike
                          Hi all,
                          I am starting to plan out a precision rifle build based on a short action Rem 700 in .308 but I am having trouble choosing a barrel. I see chromoly, stainless, and blued. Eventually, I'd like to paint it. Can anyone tell me if one or more of those materials don't take coatings as well as any of the others?

                          I also am pretty green when it comes to rifle shooting so I would probably not drop a ton of cash on getting the best of the best of the best but rather go with something in the "good" range and spend the remaining cash on ammo and hopefully some handloading equipment.

                          Thanks everyone!
                          from my car work I'd say Chrome and stainless would have problems unless you chemically treated them. Paint will eventually just fall off.

                          Blued would probably work / hold paint. Have to degrease of course... I'd look at manifold paint. Heat wouldn't be an issue with manifold paint.

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