Painting a rifle barrel?

[TMB 1]

Well, he's not the first "nice guy" to make an unnecessary rude comment. But whatever. I'll use up some other forum's bandwidth and you guys won't be subjected my newb whining.

I didn't take the comment as rude. I took it as a I don't like Savage and don't want you to hear about them comment.

[postal]

I didn't take the comment as rude. I took it as a I don't like Savage and don't want you to hear about them comment.

No.....

Well sorta.....

But every other month like clockwork we have the rem vs sav thread... and everyone is tired of it...

I shoot savage and recommend rem.

[postal]

Haha so the op shouldn't roll an aftermarket barrel because he will "burn it out" before learning anything? That is pretty silly. Don't buy that $300 barrel because after $5000 worth of ammo it will be time to replace that tube. 99% of shooters will never shoot out a barrel in any firearm their entire life.

HAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!

Pretty much yes. He will burn out a barrel learning before he can utilize the benefits of a quality aftermarket barrel.

Even 308 burns out in 5k-7k rounds.

243/260/6.5 creedmoor wear out in half the time roughly...

You can find cartridge info at "6mmbr.com" tells you all about the cartridge, pet loads, and barrel life.

Also consider that people that get into matches shoot up to 10 rounds (or more) in 1 minute. That rapid fire does more damage to a barrel than 10 rounds over 5-10 minutes.

AR15Barrels burns out 2 barrels a year last I heard.

So either you simply dont know when a barrel is burned out, or you dont get to the range enough.

[MongooseV8]

I'm a varmint hunter. We are tougher on barrels than anyone. I have a 243 1:8 twist that still shoots 0.25 moa well after you internet experts claim it should last.

Silly me! I keep using my own first hand personal experience instead of listening to the forum sniper pro experts. I should probably take all my barrels off and throw them in the dumpster at work. After all postal knows best listen closely to his every word. My 10-15k rounds I shoot each year are no match

[GM4spd]

I'm a varmint hunter. We are tougher on barrels than anyone.

Silly me! I keep using my own first hand personal experience instead of listening to the forum sniper pro experts.

Love this guy! Pete

[Iloveguns]

I'm a varmint hunter. We are tougher on barrels than anyone. I have a 243 1:8 twist that still shoots 0.25 moa well after you internet experts claim it should last.

Silly me! I keep using my own first hand personal experience instead of listening to the forum sniper pro experts. I should probably take all my barrels off and throw them in the dumpster at work. After all postal knows best listen closely to his every word. My 10-15k rounds I shoot each year are no match

What are these magical loads you use? I would love to get 3k rounds out of my 243 rifle and have it still shoot .25moa!!! Serisouly though whats the load?

[elsolo]

He should be winning F-class matches if he truly shoots .25moa

[FMJBT]

Awesome. Another thread about sausage measuring. Will there be seperate catagories for both length and diameter this time?

[Bumslie]

Painting a rifle barrel?

Awesome. Another thread about sausage measuring. Will there be seperate catagories for both length and diameter this time?

I'm in the tuna can category. I can't touch the bottom but I can touch the sides.

[MongooseV8]

What are these magical loads you use? I would love to get 3k rounds out of my 243 rifle and have it still shoot .25moa!!! Serisouly though whats the load?

In that particular rifle a Nosler 55 grainer behind a whole bunch of Varget in a Lapua case doing just under 4k fps. I dont have 3k rounds through that barrel though....just well over the 1k Postal claims is garbage can time.

He should be winning F-class matches if he truly shoots .25moa

Not sure what you meant by this. It is common place for varmint rigs to shoot 0.25-0.50 MOA, that is not the same as shooting F-Class.

Awesome. Another thread about sausage measuring. Will there be seperate catagories for both length and diameter this time?

No need for sausage measuring, I have a tiny wee wee

[TMB 1]

No.....

Well sorta.....

But every other month like clockwork we have the rem vs sav thread... and everyone is tired of it...

I shoot savage and recommend rem.

LOL ok.

I drive a Chevy and recommend a Ford! Especially on race day

[Kestryll]

Not this ***** again...

If you don't like it, don't bother reading it and keep your comments to yourself.

If you can't help yourself, I can.

[postal]

In that particular rifle a Nosler 55 grainer behind a whole bunch of Varget in a Lapua case doing just under 4k fps. I dont have 3k rounds through that barrel though....just well over the 1k Postal claims is garbage can time.

Bueller? Bueller? bueller? HELLO???? Bueller?

I said 5-7k in 308 and about half that for 243/260/6.5cm. I **ALSO** pointed out 6mmbr.com with cartridge info.

If you bothered to click over to 6br since I *spoon fed it to you*.... You would read this.....

" Barrel life is the downside of both the .243 AI and standard .243. These chamberings pump a lot of powder through a small bore. The result, typically, is rather short barrel life, sometimes less than 1500 rounds. A few folks have been experimenting with the use of very slow, cooler-burning powders. There is some evidence that the use of super-slow powders, combined with modified cleaning regimens, can result in significantly enhanced barrel life."

And it seems most people generally get to about 2-2.5k out of a 243 barrel before accuracy drops off. *which* as I *already* pointed out... is half the barrel life of a 308.

Besides being UA... Bueller is also lacking in reading comprehension skills....

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...and.... it isnt 'garbage can time' when it's shot out at 2.5k ish.... stainless is worth over $1.00/lb at a recycler....

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Maybe you know from experience... but it's funny how varget is not recommended for 243 until you get into heavier 70grainers in a 243 ai case.... So it would seem your load is not ideal... using a slow powder on a light bullet. Though, going to the quote from 6mmbr above..... this *might* extend your short barrel life.... (more spoon feeding)

(no 243 loads with varget.... too slow)
*243 AI*Varget 43.4 Fed 210m 70 Nosler 3650fps

[postal]

LOL ok.

I drive a Chevy and recommend a Ford! Especially on race day

Seriously... we do have these threads every month, or every other month about rem/sav/tikka.....

And seriously.... I do shoot a savage....

And seriously... I do recommend rem (because the ability to upgrade over time to a premium custom if they want to)

[bombadillo]

Well OP, what do you want to do with it exactly? I didn't read through all of the replies so you may well have said what you want it to do. If you're going for a bench gun where you will be doing 98% of your shooting from a controlled environment, you can get heavy and bulky and it won't matter much, and recoil less. If you are looking for a gun to pack around, you can either get a short bull barrel, or a medium contour barrel. If you want a hunting gun, its something totally different. What caliber are you wanting to use as well, or have you looked into that at all? You can go from .22 to .300 win mag. and use it for totally different purposes. Don't rule out getting a quality used gun either, because like cars, the value drops off for most bolt actions as soon as you take them home. Don't worry about all the brand hate and lame arguments because it won't do you any good. All of the major brands from Remington, Savage, Tikka, Browning, and even Mossberg have good rifles that shoot well. My cheapest bolt gun is my best shooter, even though by all accounts, it should be the worst shooting gun. Good calibers to start off with for under 500 yards will be a .223, .243 or variant of it, .308, .270, and .30-06. There is an abundance of information all over the net on all of these calibers and you can do a thesis on choosing caliber if you want from all of the info out there. You CAN get out to 1000 yards with many of those calibers as well pretty easily with the exception of .223 and .308 without serious handloading skills and skills in general with the .223.

Give us an idea of your ideal shooting situation and what your intents are in getting into the sport.