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  • #31
    NorCalFocus
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 3913

    6mm is .244 acutally. But I believe its slightly better round.

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    • #32
      Ewcmr2
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 251

      Originally posted by milotrain
      Also many rounds use the same bolt face.

      .30-06, .308, 260, 7mm-08, .284, 6.5x284, .22-250, 220 swift, 6.5x55, 6.5x47, 6x47, 25-06, .280, 8x57, 8mm-06, 338-06, 35 whelen. Uncle Darryl's old 30-06 can run a whole lot of stuff without changing the bolt.
      Long action and short action use a different bolt (30-06 vs .308 or .270 vs 7mm-08). The bolt face may be the same but if the bolt doesn't fit in the receiver it wont do you much good.

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      • #33
        milotrain
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 4301

        Long action and short action use a different bolt
        We aren't talking about swapping bolts, we are talking about using a long action with a bolt face of .470 and a barrel chambered in any one of the many cartridges to use that bolt face. A Remington 700 long action receiver with a .470 bolt has no idea weather it's a .30-06 receiver or a .270 receiver or any other of that list.
        weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
        frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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        • #34
          Ewcmr2
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 251

          Gotcha, my bad, I thought you were saying they would all work up and down. Not just short to long or long to long.

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          • #35
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57173

            Originally posted by NorCalFocus
            6mm is .244 acutally. But I believe its slightly better round.
            That was just the other name for it.
            Barrels have 0.243" grooves and bullets still measure 0.243" diameter.
            Randall Rausch

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            Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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            • #36
              baja619
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 44

              How do I determine if my R700 30.06 is long action or short action?

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              • #37
                Wrangler John
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 1799

                Originally posted by baja619
                How do I determine if my R700 30.06 is long action or short action?
                It's a long action. The .30-06 Springfield will not fit into the short action magazine, nor is the bolt throw long enough to feed and eject it. So now that I'm started, here we go:

                Remington 700 standard cartridge long actions can be rebarreled to any cartridge with a .473" bolt face. The bolt face can be altered to accept magnum cartridges, or the bolt replaced, but that adds expense to the proposition for little practical gain. The .30-06 Springfield cartridge is one of the all time classical hunting rounds capable of taking any game in North America.

                Here is brief listing of Remington 700receivers available, note the Q&A button on each. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-part...prod32498.aspx

                Other practical cartridges include the .257 Roberts (although it works in the short action, I have three, the long action will work and allow the heaviest bullets to be seated out longer if the barrel throat is cut for the extra length), .25-06 Remington, 6mm Remington (the 7mm Mauser necked down, I experimented one and it didn't burn the barrel more than any other cartridge), 7mm Mauser, .270 Winchester, .280 Remington and .280 Remington Ackley Improved (now a factory loading from Nosler), .35 Whelen (loaded by Barnes, Federal, Hornady, Nosler and Remington), and the 9.3x62mm Mauser.

                All the short action cartridges can be barreled for, .243 Winchester, .260 Remington, 7mm-08 Remington, etc.. Keep in mind that these cartridges may require blocking or placing cartridge stops in the magazine box to gain reliable functioning or prevent recoil from battering the bullet noses during recoil.

                Remington 700's receivers, both short and long, can be rebarreled by converting to the Savage barrel nut system. The new Remington Model 783 is manufactured with just that type of nut. Indeed the 783 is as close to a Savage clone as I have seen recently. http://www.remington.com/products/fi...model-783.aspx At one time I predicted that all factory rifles would be manufactured using a barrel nut or the AR barrel extension/bolt system, so far that is the developing trend. The advantage to the AR system is that the receiver can be made from aluminum alloy.

                Any Remington 700 barreled action can be sent to Pac-Nor Barreling and rebarreled with the Pac-Nut (Remington barrel nut) that allows for user swapped barrels using Savage tools. http://www.pac-nor.com/photo_gallery/pacnut-clup-lg.jpg Although this requires an investment in tools and headspace gauges, and knowledge of the techniques involved. Bergara Barrels of Spain also makes Remington 700 replacement barrels that install with a nut. http://bergarausa.com/store.php?shop...0model%20700#l Although the selection is limited and demand is high keeping the supply low. These are top quality barrels made almost entirely on CNC and robotic machines.

                Remington 700 rifles and receivers are just about the best thing going for a balance of value, accuracy and longevity. Only the Savage action is easier to work with and swap between cartridges and barrels, but some say it's too butt ugly for their tastes. The Savage action is such a good concept that Shilen has adapted it for their DGV and DGR actions, right down to the barrel nut and floating interchangeable bolt heads. http://www.shilen.com/productsCompleteRifles.html

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                • #38
                  baja619
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 44

                  wow. Lots of good info there. Thanks!

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