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  • #46
    bergmen
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 2488

    Good question. As you say, FA recommends carry with hammer down on an empty chamber (they even say that in the manual for their Model 97 which has a transfer bar mechanism). I think they are being overly cautious for legal reasons, not practical ones.

    I have not carried my Model 83 loaded in the field but would have no problem loading all five chambers. The first click safety is very robust with a solid hammer block. I understand this design was a result of a lawsuit where there was an ND due to a failure of the original mechanism but I have no details on this event.

    Ruger was hit with one similar when a Super Blackhawk owner dropped his loaded revolver and it fell on the hammer and discharged killing him. This was in the early 70s before the transfer bar was designed into all Ruger single actions.

    The Freedom Arms single actions truly have no equals, they are incredible (but you probably already know that).

    Dan

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    • #47
      splithoof
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2015
      • 5457

      Originally posted by bergmen
      Good question. As you say, FA recommends carry with hammer down on an empty chamber (they even say that in the manual for their Model 97 which has a transfer bar mechanism). I think they are being overly cautious for legal reasons, not practical ones.

      I have not carried my Model 83 loaded in the field but would have no problem loading all five chambers. The first click safety is very robust with a solid hammer block. I understand this design was a result of a lawsuit where there was an ND due to a failure of the original mechanism but I have no details on this event.

      Ruger was hit with one similar when a Super Blackhawk owner dropped his loaded revolver and it fell on the hammer and discharged killing him. This was in the early 70s before the transfer bar was designed into all Ruger single actions.

      The Freedom Arms single actions truly have no equals, they are incredible (but you probably already know that).

      Dan
      Thank you for the reply.
      Yes, I know first hand of the quality (shot about five of six different examples) and have been asking several owners. Late last year (or earlier this year) my original plan was to order one, but a bunch of life things got in the way and it got stalled, until yesterday

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      • #48
        bergmen
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 2488

        Originally posted by splithoof
        Thank you for the reply.
        Yes, I know first hand of the quality (shot about five of six different examples) and have been asking several owners. Late last year (or earlier this year) my original plan was to order one, but a bunch of life things got in the way and it got stalled, until yesterday
        I got lucky. When I ordered mine in March of 2011, I was told there was a 9 week lead time since they typically build to order. When the order was placed, it turned out they had one in stock exactly to my specifications, all they needed to do was fit a .45 Colt cylinder (which took a week or so).

        Dan

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        • #49
          golfish
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2013
          • 10104

          I heard from Turnbull today. This is what the work order says..


          #3 SAFETY92CC
          Winchester 1892 Safety Conversion> Remove tang safety.
          Convert hammer and firing pin to traditional half-notch
          safety system. Drill & tap for tang sight. Modified receiver &
          hammer to be Case Hardened with lever, rifle forend cap &
          crescent buttplate. All blued parts will remain factory blued
          finish

          #4 CC
          Color Case Harden 1892 receiver, lever, hammer, forend
          cap & crescent buttplate.

          I think I'll call them next week and get a price on some simple checkering of the buttstock and forend. I'm stuck on this. I'm probably over thinking it too. If you guys have a picture of some checkering that's simple and clean I'd much appreciate a picture.

          These are pretty simple and functional. I believe these are lasered.


          Last edited by golfish; 09-04-2021, 6:36 PM.
          It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
          Happiness is a warm gun.

          MLC, First 3

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          • #50
            M76
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2014
            • 5954

            Originally posted by 200Apples
            Our esteemed colleague SplitHo0f is a rifleman of the first order. Anything he might do to one of his long guns is eminently practical tactical...
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            • #51
              200Apples
              -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Dec 2011
              • 7217

              Yes! ...but never tacti-cool.
              .
              "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

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              • #52
                splithoof
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2015
                • 5457

                Originally posted by 200Apples
                Yes! ...but never tacti-cool.

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                • #53
                  splithoof
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2015
                  • 5457

                  Originally posted by golfish
                  I heard from Turnbull today. This is what the work order says..


                  #3 SAFETY92CC
                  Winchester 1892 Safety Conversion> Remove tang safety.
                  Convert hammer and firing pin to traditional half-notch
                  safety system. Drill & tap for tang sight. Modified receiver &
                  hammer to be Case Hardened with lever, rifle forend cap &
                  crescent buttplate. All blued parts will remain factory blued
                  finish

                  #4 CC
                  Color Case Harden 1892 receiver, lever, hammer, forend
                  cap & crescent buttplate.

                  I think I'll call them next week and get a price on some simple checkering of the buttstock and forend. I'm stuck on this. I'm probably over thinking it too. If you guys have a picture of some checkering that's simple and clean I'd much appreciate a picture.

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                  • #54
                    Garbcollector
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 2096

                    That Winchester is one sweet rifle

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                    • #55
                      pennstater
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 4654

                      I've shot golfish[Mark's] Miruko. It's damn nice looking as is/was. Can't wait till he gets it back. That is gonna be a beautiful levergun. And if he picks up that Std. Manuf'ing .45 Colt revolver; he'll be impossible to deal with!

                      MLC

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                      • #56
                        200Apples
                        -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 7217

                        That is gonna be a beautiful levergun. And if he picks up that Std. Manuf'ing .45 Colt revolver; he'll be impossible to deal with!

                        Hahaha! That may be, but, either way, I'm lookin' forward to sub-80 degree temps! so's we can lever ourselves to our hearts' content.

                        .
                        "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

                        NRA Lifetime | Avatar courtesy Elon Musk's Twitter User SomthingWicked

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                        • #57
                          golfish
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 10104

                          Originally posted by golfish
                          I heard from Turnbull today. This is what the work order says..


                          #3 SAFETY92CC
                          Winchester 1892 Safety Conversion> Remove tang safety.
                          Convert hammer and firing pin to traditional half-notch
                          safety system. Drill & tap for tang sight. Modified receiver &
                          hammer to be Case Hardened with lever, rifle forend cap &
                          crescent buttplate.
                          Hey fellas, I'd really like to put on a tang sight on this gun. Because of the tang safety I don't think it was drilled for it.

                          Does anyone know what tang sight will work for this one ?

                          How's this one look?



                          I hear ya Tom...we nees to get out to the Mojave
                          Last edited by golfish; 09-07-2021, 10:01 PM.
                          It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                          Happiness is a warm gun.

                          MLC, First 3

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                          • #58
                            golfish
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 10104

                            Hey fellas, is the wood on this gun walnut with some redish stain on it?

                            I've noticed that most of the guns Turnbull does wood refinishing on have a redish color to them. I've even noticed that the replicas that some of the Italian companies make have the same color.

                            I like the real brown walnut that came on this gun. It's a lot like the walnut used on the Marlin 1894s that were made in the final years. The pictures of my Henry Long Ranger that I posted above has a little darker flavored walnut.

                            Guys, I apologies for all of the silly questions. This could be my only shot at getting a nice gun done by Turnbull. I wish I could have done an older 92.

                            Last edited by golfish; 09-07-2021, 10:54 PM.
                            It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                            Happiness is a warm gun.

                            MLC, First 3

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                            • #59
                              golfish
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 10104

                              Will you have a lever gun to match?
                              I'm looking forward at seeing these. The couple that Dan has posted are awesome...

                              Hurts my my forehead just looking at em
                              It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                              Happiness is a warm gun.

                              MLC, First 3

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                              • #60
                                splithoof
                                Calguns Addict
                                • May 2015
                                • 5457

                                Originally posted by golfish
                                Will you have a lever gun to match?
                                I'm looking forward at seeing these. The couple that Dan has posted are awesome...

                                Hurts my my forehead just looking at em

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