Ruger to acquire Marlin

[Cowboy T]

Indeed, I'm considering a .45 Colt levergun. Imagine a Ruger-made .45 Colt levergun that can actually take "Ruger-only" loads. Wouldn't that be cool?

I'm in no rush.

[rromeo]

An 1894 can handle the "Ruger only" loads. The reason they're called Ruger only is so you didn't run them in an old revolver.

[BOBGBA]

...My 1894 in 357 is by far the most fun rifle I own, and reloading is stupid easy and cheap for it.

It's only cheap to reload for those that have the components.
Components are scarce and overpriced right now.

[bergmen]

An 1894 can handle the "Ruger only" loads. The reason they're called Ruger only is so you didn't run them in an old revolver.

Yes, my Marlin 1894 in .45 Colt can take "Ruger Only" loads. The pressures are less than full scale .44 Magnum rounds, and that action has been chambered in .44 Magnum for some time.

Dan

[splithoof]

Indeed, I'm considering a .45 Colt levergun. Imagine a Ruger-made .45 Colt levergun that can actually take "Ruger-only" loads. Wouldn't that be cool?

I'm in no rush.

[M1NM]

I hope the quality and availability improves.

It won't Ruger will re-engineer each gun on how to make it cheaper before it's brought out. Lots of new molded metal parts, ill fitting synthetic stocks and plastic parts galore.

[darkwater]

Nah, I'm good...I have two JM Marlins that I acquired just after Remington started turning out the first clunkers in Ilion back in 2010...just beat the mad scramble for JM Marlins and the pricing that followed.

Gotcha...that makes sense!

[Cowboy T]

How about this: A Ruger matched set consisting of a lever action rifle, and one of their single action revolvers of the same caliber, with paired serial numbers?

That might work well for collectors, but would a significant (i. e. financially worthwhile) segment of the "cowboy gun" market actually pay a premium for this? I don't know, since I actually don't have any single-action revolvers or do CAS.

I would imagine because Ruger is known for mass-producing sturdy, workin' man's firearms that aren't fancy, but rather reasonably priced and tough enough to last. Remember, until the LCR, their idea of a "small concealed carry" piece was the SP-101! They don't have the same "custom" cachet that, say, S&W or Colt might have. Not saying they are incapable of it, and I'm sure that they are, but I'm not sure that aligns with the--for lack of a better term--"Ruger philosophy" of firearms manufacture.

[Jwalt]

It'll be interesting to see how "separate" they keep the Marlin Brand and whether they do show an interest in making higher prestige models under that brand.

However, they do have to fit into a kind of crowded market. I wonder if they will make "pretty guns" for those who want that and also start making cut-price models with lots of molded cast and synthetic bits to cut prices.

[Cowboy T]

An 1894 can handle the "Ruger only" loads. The reason they're called Ruger only is so you didn't run them in an old revolver.

Yes, my Marlin 1894 in .45 Colt can take "Ruger Only" loads. The pressures are less than full scale .44 Magnum rounds, and that action has been chambered in .44 Magnum for some time.

Dan

Didn't know that, so that's good to know. Thanks. Got a question about this, actually.

The "Ruger-only" loads are, according to my books, about 30,000 PSI. The .44M is something like 34,000 PSI. My load is a Buffalo Bore load that does 1,350 FPS out of the 7.5" Super Redhawk 454 with a 250gr LRNFP. Since I don't have a pressure tester (few of us do), I wonder if anyone with QuickLoad could estimate the pressure of this load?

I'll still wait to see what Ruger does with this, of course. But if it isn't up to snuff, it's good to know that there will remain options.

It's only cheap to reload for those that have the components.
Components are scarce and overpriced right now.

Exactly. And since I have components, it's cheap for me.

Let's all learn from the current situation and gradually stock up when things get better.

[elk hunter]

If Ruger makes a 336 lever gun I will buy one, I would then have a Marlin 336 a Remlin 336 and a Ruglin 336. A complete set and I hope to high heaven they would bring it out in 25-35 or 32 Win Spl or 38-55 as well as 30-30 with a beefed up mod in something like 7mm Waters or surprise me. How about a 256 Win, wouldn't that be nice.

[splithoof]

If Ruger makes a 336 lever gun I will buy one, I would then have a Marlin 336 a Remlin 336 and a Ruglin 336. A complete set and I hope to high heaven they would bring it out in 25-35 or 32 Win Spl or 38-55 as well as 30-30 with a beefed up mod in something like 7mm Waters or surprise me. How about a 256 Win, wouldn't that be nice.

Now that would be a nice fit for a good reference collection; a 336 set, with an example from different manufacturers. I’d gather a set in .30-30 or .32 Special; that way reloading would be minimal, as you can fashion .32 Special from the other.
Which reminds me....I have a nice .32 Special Winchester 1894 that needs to see some daylight. What do you say Apples?....
Being confined to using a BR for a bit does that to ya....

[Imageview]

While it's not exactly the same, the 1894 is pretty similar to the 336 action which is chambered in calibers whose commerical loads hit 45k psi.

No quick loads, but that velocity is within the top end of published data which is supposed to be below 25-30k psi (depending on source). Don't think I'd want to pull the trigger, even if it's safe that's gotta be a wrist killer.

How is case life?

[200Apples]

I have a nice .32 Special Winchester 1894 that needs to see some daylight. What do you say Apples?....
Being confined to using a BR for a bit does that to ya....

Sounds good to me.

Our esteemed colleague splithoof here has undergone some bionic upgrades and is convalescing, restricted when shooting to the bench rest until further notice.

I am waiting for some cooler weather and the all-clear from the USFS. I wish to attend the next Orientation for the PRC I've just joined.

I want to get both my Rugers and my Marlins to the range!

[Sandspider500]

Didn't know that, so that's good to know. Thanks. Got a question about this, actually.

The "Ruger-only" loads are, according to my books, about 30,000 PSI. The .44M is something like 34,000 PSI. My load is a Buffalo Bore load that does 1,350 FPS out of the 7.5" Super Redhawk 454 with a 250gr LRNFP. Since I don't have a pressure tester (few of us do), I wonder if anyone with QuickLoad could estimate the pressure of this load?

I'll still wait to see what Ruger does with this, of course. But if it isn't up to snuff, it's good to know that there will remain options.



Exactly. And since I have components, it's cheap for me.

Let's all learn from the current situation and gradually stock up when things get better.

That depends on what powder is used as far as what the pressure would be.