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  • #16
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57129

    Originally posted by kevins750
    Will this buck the wind that much better than my 243 with 107 smk/105 matchburners?
    No.

    That was not one of your listed requirements.
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    • #17
      kevins750
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 1376

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      Even 36" barrels do not hamper speed on cartridges burning at least 20-25 grains of powder.
      Longer barrels give you more velocity or the same velocity as shorter barrels at lower pressures.

      6mm creedmoor, 6br or even 6 dasher are easy ones in your 308 action.
      Just in case I want to run a mag....

      Is there an issue feeding those 2 you mentioned, I am sure creedmoor is fine
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      • #18
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57129

        Originally posted by kevins750
        Just in case I want to run a mag....

        Is there an issue feeding those 2 you mentioned, I am sure creedmoor is fine
        BR or Dasher do not come out of an AICS magazine as well as a creedmoor.
        Randall Rausch

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        • #19
          mmlook
          Member
          • Feb 2018
          • 324

          since it hasn't been mentioned yet

          6xc

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          • #20
            LynnJr
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7958

            Kevin750
            The 6 Dasher runs 3025-3050 FPS so any cartridge running more velocity with the same bullet will buck the wind better.
            Unfortunately those other chamberings don't have the same accuracy low recoil or barrel life of the Dasher.
            You won't find a 243 6 creedmoor or 6 XC at a benchrest match for those reasons.
            If you up the velocity another 350+ FPS like the 6-284 running 3400+ you will see those on occasion.
            Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
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            • #21
              kevins750
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 1376

              Originally posted by LynnJr
              Kevin750
              The 6 Dasher runs 3025-3050 FPS so any cartridge running more velocity with the same bullet will buck the wind better.
              Unfortunately those other chamberings don't have the same accuracy low recoil or barrel life of the Dasher.
              You won't find a 243 6 creedmoor or 6 XC at a benchrest match for those reasons.
              If you up the velocity another 350+ FPS like the 6-284 running 3400+ you will see those on occasion.
              So 8 twist is sufficient for the dasher?
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              • #22
                triggs75
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1835

                I love my dasher. Stupid accurate, little recoil and very easy to load a good round.

                I got my brass from https://huntslongrange.com/product/l...v=7516fd43adaa Their brass is ready to go, no fire forming just get it and load up, it shot great right out of the box.

                Chad

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                • #23
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57129

                  Originally posted by kevins750
                  So 8 twist is sufficient for the dasher?
                  Yes.
                  Especially with a longer barrel.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #24
                    longrange1
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 1032

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    BR or Dasher do not come out of an AICS magazine as well as a creedmoor.
                    these solve the mag issues...i run a 6BR and 6BRX with these kits both run flawlessly.



                    OP if you want ridiculously accurate build a 6BR...i little slower but fantastic barrel life and unbelievably accurate/consistent...ive shot several groups at 650yds as big as you thumb nail...i shot a 1.5" 3 shot group at 850yds.

                    easiest cartridge EVER to load for...run 30g of varget or RL-15 a CCI450 with a 105 or 108 bullet start touching the lands and work back .005 at a time...if it wont shoot 1 hole groups with that combo something is wrong with the gun or the shooter.

                    if you want retarded fast and pretty damn accurate build a 28-30" 6creedmoor...this will come with a price...barrel life and finicky.

                    i built this 6CM to prove they are accurate...at 450 rounds i lost .010 off the lands and had to change seating depth because it threw my load off...if i get 1000-1100 rounds through this barrel ill be happy but im thinking 900 itll be done.

                    the middle ground would be dasher...BRX...BRA 6x47 ECT...personally i prefer the BRX...you can get hydro formed brass for just about any of these wildcat 6mms now.

                    48 round sample...group pic when adjusted seating last thursday...right .020 off...left .015 off center is original load that was .020 off but was actually .030 off.
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                    • #25
                      LynnJr
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7958

                      Kevin750
                      A lot of the benchrest guys are using 8.5 - 8.7 twist barrels and 95-108 grain bullets.
                      The faster you spin a bullet the quicker any imbalances it might have will show up on the target.
                      Most factory 308's have the wrong twist rate for the bullets they will most likely shoot. The factories use a 10 twist in case someone loads them with a 220 grain bullet which isn't practical.
                      I use 14 twist barrels on my 300 wsm's and 190 grain bullets shoot sub quarter inch.

                      You will find that the heavy 6mm bullets tend to like 3000,3200 and 3400 FPS with some wiggle room thrown in due to barrel length and what end of the node you use.
                      The 6.5-284,240 Weatherby and 6mm-06 will all push a 107 to 3400 in a 28-30 inch barrel if 1000 rounds works for you.
                      Run the numbers on an online calculator and you will be surprised how flat that is compared to most other cartridges.
                      The downside is heat and barrel life.
                      I turn all my old 6 Dasher barrels into 6mm-06's because you can run the reamer in without having to cut off the old tenon.
                      It cleans up 100% .
                      Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                      Southwest Regional Director
                      Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                      www.unlimitedrange.org
                      Not a commercial business.
                      URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                        rm1911
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 4073

                        Which short action?

                        Originally posted by kevins750

                        Howa action 308 bolt



                        500-1000 yards paper and steel



                        Target rifle only


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                        • #29
                          kevins750
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 1376

                          The rifle is in 22-250 which uses a 308 bolt face I believe. I just don't care for the 22-250, actually I just bought the rifle so I could rebarrel it. I had a brake put on it and still just doesn't do it for me.
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                          • #30
                            longrange1
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2015
                            • 1032

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