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  • LynnJr
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2013
    • 7958

    Originally posted by Bisley
    Finally! Someone actually gets it! I sure hope a person with admittedly almost no rifle experience AND still decides that after a couple boxes of ammo in a medium bore rifle he's ready to hunt is hunting in your other guys' area and not mine!!!
    I hope the first time hunter using a 223 is in your area and not mine. I don't want to see a bunch of crippled bucks in my area.
    Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
    Southwest Regional Director
    Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
    www.unlimitedrange.org
    Not a commercial business.
    URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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    • Rockdog
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 41

      I have come full circle, and now I am leaning towards a 270 or 30-06. I believe I am a big enough guy to handle the recoil. I am not overly concerned with ammo cost, and I think I want to learn on what I will be hunting with. I plan on taking a rifle safety course, practice (anyone in the south bay area have a favorite range?) and once I feel more comfortable, begin to learn to hunt. Maybe within a year or two, I will be able to fill my freezer.

      Thank you all for the feedback.

      Rocky

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      • sigstroker
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2009
        • 19787

        You can always ease into it by getting a rifle with a muzzle brake or threaded barrel. Once you feel comfortable with it, you can take it off to make it easier on your ears.

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        • FishnHunt
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2015
          • 1112

          Invest in limb saver airtech recoil pads.
          my tikkas have them and I can shoot couple boxes no problem.
          I suggested it to a friend who has a Rem 700, 06 and he couldn't believe it.
          You can't go wrong with either one. I load for both, but the 06 has TONS of options to choose from. I think 168s in the 06 give you best of both worlds if you don't re load.
          All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.

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          • Rockdog
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 41

            Originally posted by FishnHunt
            Invest in limb saver airtech recoil pads.
            my tikkas have them and I can shoot couple boxes no problem.
            I suggested it to a friend who has a Rem 700, 06 and he couldn't believe it.
            You can't go wrong with either one. I load for both, but the 06 has TONS of options to choose from. I think 168s in the 06 give you best of both worlds if you don't re load.
            Good advice, at some point I would like to reload, but I have a few other goals to achieve first.

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            • TMB 1
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2012
              • 7153

              Originally posted by tomrkba
              Go to an Appleseed and learn to shoot a rifle properly. You do not need a scope. I laugh at the deer hunters around here who think they need a scope to hit a deer at 75 yards.






              Both of these come with sights if you want to follow tomrkba's advice. Plus sights good to have for back up if your scope ever breaks.


              One plus for 30-06 is if you ever get an M1 Garand, uses same ammo.
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              • ChuckDizzle
                Banned
                • Dec 2013
                • 4398

                Originally posted by LynnJr
                I hope the first time hunter using a 223 is in your area and not mine. I don't want to see a bunch of crippled bucks in my area.
                .223 is fine for deer. It's been proven over and over again

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                • Bisley
                  Member
                  • Oct 2018
                  • 196

                  Originally posted by LynnJr
                  I hope the first time hunter using a 223 is in your area and not mine. I don't want to see a bunch of crippled bucks in my area.

                  Never suggested a .223 for deer, if you care to look back I have consistently said a 17 and rabbits/squirrels to until one actually know what they're doing. Too much natural logic I guess?

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                  • sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19787

                    Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
                    .223 is fine for deer. It's been proven over and over again
                    Note that you should use heavy bullets, which brings a twist rate requirement with them. Some Remingtons are 1 in 12, and you should have 1 in 9 or faster for heavier than 55 gr bullets.

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                    • LynnJr
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7958

                      The 223 is a terrible California deer rifle. Limited range + a lack of energy.
                      And the OP wants to hunt not practice for 3 years so all suggestions on a rifle are for hunting.
                      Your advice is so bad you now want him to shoot in a archery class then take up a 22 long rifle weekly league then hunt rabbits and squirrels for years before attempting a guided pig hunt.
                      Worst advice ever.
                      So all you 12 year olds taking a hunter safety course please stop. After another 10 years of trading you can then start hunting deer pigs and elk with your 223.
                      Very sad.

                      RockDog
                      I actually hunt and I actually own guns. If you want to do some shooting I am 2 hours north of you in Santa Rosa. Any Sunday it isn't raining and all my gear shoots great. I bring the guns and ammo you do the shooting and post a 5 shot group on this post and it's all free of charge!!!
                      Your first ever group will most likely be smaller than any group ever shot by most of those posting here.
                      Last edited by LynnJr; 01-09-2019, 7:45 PM.
                      Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                      Southwest Regional Director
                      Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                      www.unlimitedrange.org
                      Not a commercial business.
                      URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                      • XVIga_Rob
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 2354

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                        • Rockdog
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 41

                          I am sure this will be a simple question.

                          But, would you all recommend, a wood or synthetic stock

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                          • FishnHunt
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 1112

                            Lynn no is talking about 223 for elk. so get that out of your head.
                            The more some people shoot the more they realize that you don't need a 338 lapua to hunt big game.
                            i'd like to see this sub moa rifle.
                            XVIga is right. take the guy up on shooting and trying out rifles. save you lots of time and money.

                            Stainless synthetic for the win
                            All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.

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                            • XVIga_Rob
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 2354

                              Originally posted by FishnHunt
                              Lynn no is talking about 223 for elk. so get that out of your head.
                              The more some people shoot the more they realize that you don't need a 338 lapua to hunt big game.
                              i'd like to see this sub moa rifle.
                              XVIga is right. take the guy up on shooting and trying out rifles. save you lots of time and money.

                              Stainless synthetic for the win
                              This, if possible. After a 2nd good ‘character mark’ on my high gloss walnut stocked 06’, I started looking for a new synthetic stocked rifle. Got a smoking deal on a nice .270 and have not looked back.

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                              • TMB 1
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 7153

                                Originally posted by Rockdog
                                I am sure this will be a simple question.

                                But, would you all recommend, a wood or synthetic stock
                                I'd take wood over most of the synthetic stocks that come on rifles like the Remington 783, Ruger American, Tikka Lite, Mossberg Patriot and Savage.

                                https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...ynthetic+Brown If I got something with synthetic stock, it would be something like this.
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