Boar Hunting Question

[EMP3]

Which of the following rounds would you choose and why? These are the only selections:


.308 Winchester
.30-06 Springfield
.300 Winchester Short Magnum
.300 Winchester Magnum
.280 Remington Ackley Improved


Thanks!!!!!

Archers kill 'em with arrows leaving strings @ ~300 FPS.

I could kill one with a 9MM handgun.

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My question regarding caliber originated because I had pretty much settled on a Kimber SubAlpine which is supposed to be very light and the calibers I mentioned are listed as the ones available. I'm an old guy and recovering from back and other surgeries so light is now what I have to live with (at least for awhile). Boar hunting is a bucket list item for me though its something I want to continue with once I get my freedom. I will likely make some mistakes along the way, but this board is a great resource to eliminate at least a few. I'm late into the firearms game, but I was having a great time with it until I started having all the surgeries. I hope our paths meet after I get a little experience under my belt.

Think I'd get either the Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 270 Win, the Model 70 Extreme Weather 270 or the Winchester Model 70 Featherweight 280 Rem if you reload. They each weigh about 7lbs give or take a couple ounces.

270 Featherweight https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...in+22+5%2B1+Gr

270 Extreme weather https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...t+270+Win+22+5

280 Featherweight https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...Rifle+.280+Rem

Either of these cartridges good for anything in California.

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https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_36_61/products_id/90617/Winchester+535206212+M70+Extreme+Weather+SS+Bolt+243+Win+22+5

This 243 be good if the broken/healing bones can't handle recoil of larger cartridges.

[FishnHunt]

308 from your list.
me personally, 762x39 AR

[Dirtlaw]

Hunting with Bow and Arrow

Archers kill 'em with arrows leaving strings @ ~300 FPS.

I could kill one with a 9MM handgun.

My physical therapist and his son:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mntbeVDS9Q

[diver160651]

Boar Hunting Question

My physical therapist and his son:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mntbeVDS9Q

[sigstroker]

I've played with a Kimber in that same line. They are VERY light, under 6 pounds iirc. A .308 is going to be uncomfortable to shoot in that rifle, especially for a beginner. If your back hurts too much to carry a 7 pound rifle, the recoil is going to be very unpleasant.

[edgerly779]

Put a muzzle break on any rifle and it will mitigate the recoil. I had Jim Hoag put one on my 300 mag along time ago and it made a big difference.

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https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_36_57_981/products_id/79970/Remington+700+MOUNTAIN+SS+BC+280

280 Remington says it weighs 6.5lbs.

[MongooseV8]

You need a Kimber or Tikka in 243 if you are worried about agitating injuries. Keep the scope lightweight too. Kimber makes several 243 models, but after owning one myself Id suggest a Tikka T3.

[sigstroker]

If the people that say .223 will do the job, or possibly a .300 Blackout, consider an AR. With your budget you can afford a lightweight one that can be tuned to recoil fairly softly. If the ranges aren't too long, a red dot that weighs very little might be best.

An AR pistol would be even lighter, and someone is selling a "bolt action" Cali legal one now.

[omgwtfbbq]

Echoing many others but from the OP's list, .308 makes the most sense for a variety of reasons (cost, recoil, availability, etc).

Friend of mine swears by 6.8SPC for pigs and I built a "do-all" 6.5 grendel AR this year that I plan to try for a pig with.

Pigs aren't tanks, you don't need massively powerful rounds to knock them down. Just like everything else, shot placement is more important than "power".

[NapalmCheese]

.295 (G1).450 (G1)

Doesn't seem like a very apples to apples comparison to me.

If you're going to use light for caliber projectiles then use light for caliber projectiles across the board.

The .30 cal 130 grain TTSX has a BC of .350, the 6.5mm 100 grain TTSX has a BC of .359.

Load data from Barnes shows the .30 cal 130g TTSX leaving the barrel at about 3200 fps. Load data from Barnes shows the 6.5mm 100g TTSX leaving the barrel at about 3200 fps.

JBM shows:
.30 cal 130g TTSX @3200 fps zeroed at 200 yards with a 5.8" drop and 7.9" drift at 300 yards.

6.5mm 100g TTSX @3200 fps zeroed at 200 yards with a 5.7" drop and 7.7" windage at 300 yards.

Calculated recoil energy for the .308 is 16.9 - 19.4 ft/lbs, calculated recoil energy for the 6.5 is 11.2 - 12.3 ft/lbs both in 7lb guns (which is pretty light).

For loads with similar felt recoil, well, the CM can't push heavy enough bullets fast enough to generate recoil like a .308. However, the .308 can be downloaded with a 110 Barnes and produce these sorts of ballistics:

13.8 - 16.9 ft/lbs of recoil energy while pushing the 110g TTSX to 3400 fps which, zeroed at 200 yards is drops 5.3" and drifts 8.9" at 300 yards.

Conclusion? It doesn't matter which one you take, they'll both shoot basically the same at hunting ranges but if you have access to a 6.5CM it will recoil less than the .308. If that's not a choice (and it was NOT a choice on your list), who cares?

Of course 6.5CM in a 12lb faux sniper rifle would recoil even less and not perform any better, but gives you the advantage of building up one of your deltoids as you carry that thing on your shoulder.

[diver160651]

Doesn't seem like a very apples to apples comparison to me.

If you're going to use light for caliber projectiles then use light for caliber projectiles across the board.

The .30 cal 130 grain TTSX has a BC of .350, the 6.5mm 100 grain TTSX has a BC of .359.

Load data from Barnes shows the .30 cal 130g TTSX leaving the barrel at about 3200 fps. Load data from Barnes shows the 6.5mm 100g TTSX leaving the barrel at about 3200 fps.

JBM shows:
.30 cal 130g TTSX @3200 fps zeroed at 200 yards with a 5.8" drop and 7.9" drift at 300 yards.

6.5mm 100g TTSX @3200 fps zeroed at 200 yards with a 5.7" drop and 7.7" windage at 300 yards.

Calculated recoil energy for the .308 is 16.9 - 19.4 ft/lbs, calculated recoil energy for the 6.5 is 11.2 - 12.3 ft/lbs both in 7lb guns (which is pretty light).

For loads with similar felt recoil, well, the CM can't push heavy enough bullets fast enough to generate recoil like a .308. However, the .308 can be downloaded with a 110 Barnes and produce these sorts of ballistics:

13.8 - 16.9 ft/lbs of recoil energy while pushing the 110g TTSX to 3400 fps which, zeroed at 200 yards is drops 5.3" and drifts 8.9" at 300 yards.

Conclusion? It doesn't matter which one you take, they'll both shoot basically the same at hunting ranges but if you have access to a 6.5CM it will recoil less than the .308. If that's not a choice (and it was NOT a choice on your list), who cares?

Of course 6.5CM in a 12lb faux sniper rifle would recoil even less and not perform any better, but gives you the advantage of building up one of your deltoids as you carry that thing on your shoulder.

yep.. I new someone would twist this..

Making recoil = in a 7lbs gun.. or whatever gun..is what I illustrated. Please do the real math.. making the recoil the same. My entire point was how recoil plays a part especially in a light mountain gun. BTW 6.5 even with a brake in a 7lbs gun still takes skill to shoot small groups and shoot game with certainty as distance increases and see the animals skin ripple on impact.

if you don't think 20% plus reduction in recoil is worth considering that's your choice..

If BC doesn't mater to you that's great too.. I am sorry the look of my 12lb rifle bothers you.. BTW the particular rifle I showed does dual duty as a match gun is for field matches where we have to hike for miles as well as hogs... this was not about my rifle weight.. even though 12lbs 6.5 is VERY lite when you consider most positional match guns are starting to slip well over 20lbs with even lower recoiling 6mm. Another point, to recoil effecting performance in field matches or positional matches is that all of us score better the lower the felt recoil....all of us do..

I am not bashing a 308.. but I know first hand the differences even when shooting both calibers is either sister deviants or simply switching barrels.

I have 308s, 4 6.5s and as I mentioned, the calibers in question except the 280AI as I am already getting almost the velocities and great shooting with the 7mag./ with recoil.. Although I just found out the proof barrel I bought for it seems it might need to get chambered in 28 Nosler or 280 as nobody local has the 7mag reamer.

[NapalmCheese]

yep.. I new someone would twist this..

Making recoil = in a 7lbs gun.. or whatever gun..is what I illustrated. Please do the real math.. making the recoil. My entire point was how recoil plays a part especially in a light mountain gun.

if you don't think 20% plus reduction in recoil is worth considering that's your choice..

If BC doesn't mater to you that's great too.. I am sorry my 12lb rifle bothers you.. this was not about my rifle weight..

I guess you missed all the stuff I wrote about the 6.5 recoiling less? Figures, as you seemed to also miss the part about where the OP 'had pretty much settled' on a rifle, which didn't include your pet round.

You know what also recoils less? A .243, not that it does the OP much good if he wants a Kimber Subalpine.