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We had a cancellation so one spot is available: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/advance...ts-42929772104
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I would have very, very, very much liked to attend but when I first saw this thread back in February, the date was taken and I could not cancel.
A (4 or more) MONTH minimum future scheduling date would be greatly appreciated in the event you schedule another clinic.
Thank you for your consideration and for investing your time to help educate others.CGN Contributor - LifetimeComment
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Did it rain? It certainly did in the Bay Area. Not sure about Sac Valley but most likely did too.
May be it is a good idea to do it in Coalinga in April. If do it in Fosom, do it in May or after
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Looks like I'm the first to write an AAR of this glorious event
The range, the weather, the people were all fantastic.
Lunch was, well I was one of several people who couldn't pass up a photo of 20 beautiful tri-tips on the pit BBQ. It was great!
A class like this I feel is likely to be prone to quite a bit of difference in perception. What I mean is, if you came to the class with a great attitude (and I didn't see anyone who didn't) you probably had a great time. The coaches were there to help but weren't pushy, at least none of mine were.
Relay 1 - Coach was an accomplished F-class shooter. I told him I had a 100 yard zero and my velocity was 2780. He works in MOA, but did some conversions and told me to come up 8 mils, and I send one in... Spotter comes up 3 o'clock in the 7 ring! I am stunned. And totally stoked!
There's no wind yet so early in the morning and he has me put .5 mil left windage and I start sending them into the black.
My first time shooting 1000 yards, and I'm hitting the black in 2 shots. I couldn't be happier. Things went smoothly and I put another 15 or so rounds down range in that 30 minute period. But honestly I was too giddy to pay much attention to what was going on, and he tried to get me to read the mirage but every time I told him "its going left to right" he was say the opposite. It was hard to get a handle on things.
I take a turn in the pits and my shooter #9R2 is pretty good, pretty consistent and lots of shots in the X-through-9-ring.
2nd turn shooting, new coach. He wants to see me shoot one with no accounting for wind, just put it in the middle. We decide I need to come back a few tenths. And then he does a bunch of math, figuring out the size of the rings, and how many 1/10 mils that might be and as he's watching the signs he's calling out 3-o'clock 10-ring! and I put my cross hairs where he says and send it. I put almost all of them in the black and I spent much more time now that I was over my initial joy listening and watching the signs. We had some good back and forth wind so some shots I'd be holding up to 1/2 a mil off left and then within another shot 1/2 a mil on the right.
Coach 2 had two really big pieces of advice for me that made a big difference. We had one wind call that had me hold on the edge of the black (exactly 0.5 mil) and I had mirage, and all the flags all reading the same thing, and I pulled an X. So that gave me a ton of confidence and at least one kickbutt data point that I could reference from.
He also asked me to pull my bipod back from the hard metal and concrete edge of the gravel we were laying in. This was a very convenient place to put the bipod so it wouldn't sink, but also I could lean into it hard and felt very stable behind the rifle. But he said, where the hell are you going to find one of those out in the wild. (Never)
Moving my bipod back to my mat on top of the gravel changed my point of impact .2 mil but that was easily dialed into the scope.
3rd and 4th strings of fire after lunch I wanted to test my self so I shot it all without coaching, but I would call out my wind holds in either Rings left of right, or 10th mils. I impressed myself and I came home with two targets filled with sub-9-ring shots. I am really really happy!
Looking at my group size between the two targets its 2.5 MOA over about 40 shots. I don't know if that's good or bad, but I don't care. I'm living the dream!
I have often heard Randall say that he thinks 308 is a great round to start with because you learn the wind better. As an example my .5 mil hold off for a full value wind right to left is only 18 inches at 1000 yards. I heard other coaches telling 308 shooters to put 4-5 MOA on their scopes and that averages to 45 inches, more than double my wind hold. I see what he means now (but I'm not giving up my 6.5
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Another big take away from the coaches is that every one I talked to said they always put the windage on the scope. This lets them hold a consistent sight picture (especially important with irons). I was not comfortable enough dialing and shooting, I'd have to look which way was left/right every time and since my scope has mil hold offs I just used those. I felt pretty damn good about it, but I do get the point and think it is worth becoming familiar enough to do it. Obviously these guys are some of the best in CA if not the country/world, one would be pretty silly to ignore advice like that.
Thank you Coaches. Thank you California Grizzlies. Thank you lunch people. And thank you to my fellow shooters, it was great to meet you all.Last edited by hardlyworking; 04-23-2018, 2:42 PM.Comment
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Glad you had a great time!As a coach, I too a had a great time.From the start we had no more than 1/2-1min of wind,and by the end of the day no more than 3 1/2moa.It was a great day to take advantage of light wind to help shooters become more proficient at long range.Looks like I'm the first to write an AAR of this glorious event
The range, the weather, the people were all fantastic.
Lunch was, well I was one of several people who couldn't pass up a photo of 20 beautiful tri-tips on the pit BBQ. It was great!
A class like this I feel is likely to be prone to quite a bit of difference in perception. What I mean is, if you came to the class with a great attitude (and I didn't see anyone who didn't) you probably had a great time. The coaches were there to help but weren't pushy, at least none of mine were.
Relay 1 - Coach was an accomplished F-class shooter. I told him I had a 100 yard zero and my velocity was 2780. He works in MOA, but did some conversions and told me to come up 8 mils, and I send one in... Spotter comes up 3 o'clock in the 7 ring! I am stunned. And totally stoked!
There's no wind yet so early in the morning and he has me put .5 mil left windage and I start sending them into the black.
My first time shooting 1000 yards, and I'm hitting the black in 2 shots. I couldn't be happier. Things went smoothly and I put another 15 or so rounds down range in that 30 minute period. But honestly I was too giddy to pay much attention to what was going on, and he tried to get me to read the mirage but every time I told him "its going left to right" he was say the opposite. It was hard to get a handle on things.
I take a turn in the pits and my shooter #9R2 is pretty good, pretty consistent and lots of shots in within the 9-ring.
2nd turn shooting, new coach. He wants to see me shoot one with no accounting for wind, just put it in the middle. We decide I need to come back a few tenths. And then he does a bunch of math, figuring out the size of the rings, and how many 1/10 mils that might be and as he's watching the signs he's calling out 3-o'clock 10-ring! and I put my cross hairs where he says and send it. I put almost all of them in the black and I spent much more time now that I was over my initial joy listening and watching the signs. We had some good back and forth wind so some shots I'd be holding up to 1/2 a mil off left and then within another shot 1/2 a mil on the right.
Coach 2 had two really big pieces of advice for me that made a big difference. We had one wind call that had me hold on the edge of the black (exactly 0.5 mil) and I had mirage, and all the flags all reading the same thing, and I pulled an X. So that gave me a ton of confidence and at least one kickbutt data point that I could reference from.
He also asked me to pull my bipod back from the hard metal and concrete edge of the gravel we were laying in. This was a very convenient place to put the bipod so it wouldn't sink, but also I could lean into it hard and felt very stable behind the rifle. But he said, where the hell are you going to find one of those out in the wild. (Never)
Moving my bipod back to my mat on top of the gravel changed my point of impact .2 mil but that was easily dialed into the scope.
3rd and 4th strings of fire after lunch I wanted to test my self so I shot it all without coaching, but I would call out my wind holds in either Rings left of right, or 10th mils. I impressed myself and I came home with two targets filled with sub-9-ring shots. I am really really happy!
Looking at my group size between the two targets its 2.5 MOA over about 40 shots. I don't know if that's good or bad, but I don't care. I'm living the dream!
I have often heard Randall say that he thinks 308 is a great round to start with because you learn the wind better. As an example my .5 mil hold off for a full value wind right to left is only 18 inches at 1000 yards. I heard other coaches telling 308 shooters to put 4-5 MOA on their scopes and that averages to 45 inches, more than double my wind hold. I see what he means now (but I'm not giving up my 6.5 )
Another big take away from the coaches is that every one I talked to said they always put the windage on the scope. This lets them hold a consistent sight picture (especially important with irons). I was not comfortable enough dialing and shooting, I'd have to look which way was left/right every time and since my scope has mil hold offs I just used those. I felt pretty damn good about it, but I do get the point and think it is worth becoming familiar enough to do it. Obviously these guys are some of the best in CA if not the country/world, one would be pretty silly to ignore advice like that.
Thank you Coaches. Thank you California Grizzlies. Thank you lunch people. And thank you to my fellow shooters, it was great to meet you all.Keep it simple!Comment
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