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1,000 yds?
I want to build a rifle capable of 1,000 yds! What caliber and platform is recommended?
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Do you want to shoot out to 1,000 yards occasionally or in competition?
Do you reload?
Is recoil or muzzle blast a factor?NRA Endowment Life Member -
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A .308 is a good round to learn with. It can easily reach out to 1000 yards with a good bolt gun, has a long barrel life and ammo is easily found.
There other rounds that have a better BC like 6.5cm or .260 but your barrel life is cut into 1/3.
There are only choices like .243, 300wm and .284 that are all capable of 1000 yards as well.Last edited by Tango_Down; 01-27-2018, 8:34 PM.Comment
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Watch the tibosauris rex sniper 101 series.
He should charge $1,000 for the information in the series on DVDRule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
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Rem 700's are very popular and can be had fairly cheap ($1,000-$1,700) depending on location add options. I like the one with 5R barrel and X40 trigger and metal drop plate. Good glass is a must as well.
Your milage may vary,Comment
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Long range 1,000 yard competition such as F-Class, you can certainly build a rifle to do it. Research F-Open or F T/R on youtube or accurate shooter and that will give you a good idea. Build costs can be anywhere from $2K-$4K for the rifle, plus optics.
Caliber choices: 284 Winchester, 284 Shehane, 284 Walker, 6.5x47, 6.5 creedmoor, 6.5x284, 260AI, 280AI, 7 RSAUM, 300 WSM, 7 WSM, and if you are shooting T/R, you are stuck with 308 (although you can shoot .223, but at long range you will find it very tough to keep up). 7mm cartridges are the most popular. I shoot a 284 Shehane.
Platform...well that is personal preference, but here is the equipment summary from last years Berger SWN:
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In general start with a rifle and learn to shoot to the limits of the rifle.
If a Remington 700 in .308 will shoot 1 moa, then learn to shoot 1 moa at 1,000 or about a 10” group.
308 gives lots of barrel life and can be rebarreled in a factory take off for almost nothing or with a great barrel for under $500Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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Rex is religious and that is not relevant to the value of the videos.
100+ videos of him educating on long range shooting.
Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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What do you consider building a rifle? You want to just buy a base rifle from the store and add to it or do you want to buy each part and have a smith assembly it? What's your budget for a rifle?
If you want to buy a factory rifle there are lots of great options out there right in the $1000 range. The Howa HCR or new Howa Bravo, the Ruger Precision Rifle, Tikka TX3, or the Remington Precision rifle that is coming out. The common theme among all these rifles you'll find is they come in 6.5 Creedmoor or .308 Winchester and they all have fully adjustable stocks or chassis. Having gone down this road myself, I can tell you don't buy a rifle or stock that isn't adjustable. It just doesn't make sense.
.308 is fine for 1000 yards if you reload. Not that it can't be done with factory ammo, it's just easier with hand loads. .308 offers more recoil and more wind drift for better teaching of those two aspects. However 6.5 is the easy button for getting to 1000 and beyond. 308 will putter out around 1000-1200, the 6.5 will get you to 1500.Comment
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I just put together a bolt rig. Bumslie did, too, he went for a .260 but i decided on .308for the barrel life and i dont need another caliber in my quiver wt this point.
A good rifle is the remington 700, and the 5r with the milspec barrel is supposed to be the most accurate out of the box of current remington production, but i dont know enough to verify that. Numslie picked the same rifle.
You can find a new one on the secondsry market for $900-1000, i found one locally that was NIB.
Glass is expensive. Youre going to spend an easy $1000 on a scope, get a 34 mm tube, but you dont have to go crazy and buy a $2k plus scope to start, neither do you want a $300 scope that youre replacing in two months because you didnt spend enough, and you cant see the long targets, or dont have enough elevstion built in to reach them.
Rings and rail are going to be close to $200.
Most use a brake so they can better call their own shots.
Some, like me, swap the factory HS stock for something with more comb for the big scopes.
Some kind of bipod, $100 harris up to the mid range $300 atlas to $500 ones.
You can replace the trigger with a Timney 510 for $100 and do it yourself, its two pins, and have a fantastic trigger.
Youre looking at $2k on a tight budget, likely more.
I am certainly no expert, but the people who know whats what are friendly and share their knowledge. Just be careful, some will tell you that a $5-7k rig is essential. Starting out, thats a lot to tie up in something you miht not be that into. Kind of like buying a set of $1000 Ping clubs to see if you like golf.
Get into reloading, you'll both be able to tailor a load your rifle likes better than factory ammo, and $1 per shot for GMM gets old very fast.
Do research before you spend a dime. There are several articles on all these choices, heres what i sued to pick a scope:
I picked thr Bushnell HDMR, i think it punches way over its weight for the proce. bumslie got a Vortex that hes very happy with.Originally posted by tony270Originally posted by repubconservOriginally posted by el chivoXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOriginally posted by pjsig
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