Scope zeroed at max left windage....?

[MacOtac]

No word yet from Gunsmith, turned in the rifle Wednesday. Seemed like there was a lot of rifle being turned in that day. Will let you guys know if I hear anything today.

[MacOtac]

I got the rifle back from the gunsmith and he confirms it is zeroing max left. Scope is mounted correctly (per gunsmith). I will now be shipping the scope to Bushnell as this has to be the problem.

I will ship out in the morning and let you all know what I hear from Bushnell and if this is the true problem.

So frustrating.....

[baih777]

Reading this has me concerned about the 700 I pick up tomorrow

Adjust the trigger first. If you don't like it, replace the trigger first. If your scope rail fits good and does not rock on the receiver , mount your scope and shoot..
Then make your first visit to Randall to tune your bolt to your rifle and get the barrel threaded.
And take your muzzle brake. And have him do his bolt knob install. You will need that too.

[triggs75]

I got the rifle back from the gunsmith and he confirms it is zeroing max left. Scope is mounted correctly (per gunsmith). I will now be shipping the scope to Bushnell as this has to be the problem.

I will ship out in the morning and let you all know what I hear from Bushnell and if this is the true problem.

So frustrating.....

Didn't read the entire thread, but I am assuming you put this scope on another rifle and it was shooting max to the left as well? Or is this just on the one rifle?

Only reason I ask was my buddy had the same thing a few months back and it was a crooked barrel, the scope was fine.

[ar15barrels]

I got the rifle back from the gunsmith and he confirms it is zeroing max left. Scope is mounted correctly (per gunsmith). I will now be shipping the scope to Bushnell as this has to be the problem.

Before you do that, put the scope on another rifle and zero it and see if it ALSO zeroes all the way to one side.
Alternatively, put a DIFFERENT scope on the problem rifle.

The problem will stay with the faulty part of the equation.

I'm betting on the barrel being the problem.

[7anthony7]

I had a Nikon that was maxed and tried it on another rifle with the same results. Sent it back and they sent me a new scope with no issues. Maybe it's me, but I have only lapped standard rings. If the gun is shooting groips your happy with and it's point of aim, point of impact I wouldn't care if it was maxed out. As long as it's hitting where you want it without the Kentucky windage

[MacOtac]

I will mount on another rifle a see if it is the same issue before mailing back the scope to Bushnell.

[cannon]

Very interesting discussion.

[MacOtac]

So mounted the Bushnell scope on my Rem 700 VTR 5R (308) with the same Badger rings but used the Larue mount i had on the VTR.

Problem is not with the scope as I zeroed out the winding and in the first three shots, it was on target. After a dozen rounds and all POAPOI, it is not the scope or the Badger Rings.

Only thing left is the Badge mounting plate or the rifle itself.

I am leaning now with what AR 15 stated it is probably the action screw holes are off or the barrel is bent.

Where to go from here?

[baih777]

I hate to say this but. Take off the badger rail and put it on the other gun. And try that.
But its looking like the barrel might be bent. You know anybody with a straight edge to lay along the barrel. Not the real way to do it but if you can see a bend you can take a pic and off to Remington it goes for warranty repair.
Or.if your in the Socal area maybe you can make an appointment with Randall.

[MacOtac]

I generated a repair order with Remington. I am shipping the rifle to them. Have them figure it out.

[Hateca]

I generated a repair order with Remington. I am shipping the rifle to them. Have them figure it out.

And they will shoot it, if it groups 1.00" or under they will ship it back as in spec. They may replace the barrel but you may end up in the same boat, maybe with the adjustments going in another direction.

Any builder with a lathe can chuck up this barreled action and tell you in 10min if and where the barrel run-out is. (why didn't the smith you sent it to check this?)

This isn't your scope base holes this is the factory bent barrel or bore run-out period.

[ar15barrels]

So mounted the Bushnell scope on my Rem 700 VTR 5R (308) with the same Badger rings but used the Larue mount i had on the VTR.

Problem is not with the scope as I zeroed out the winding and in the first three shots, it was on target. After a dozen rounds and all POAPOI, it is not the scope or the Badger Rings.

Only thing left is the Badge mounting plate or the rifle itself.

I am leaning now with what AR 15 stated it is probably the action screw holes are off or the barrel is bent.

Where to go from here?

20:1 odds are that it is the barrel and/or the front of the receiver is crooked.
Mis-drilled action holes are very rare and would not cause this sort of problem because the scope is mounted to the action, not the stock.

The best solution is replacement if you don't want to use some sort of windage adjustable ring system to get the scope offset to the receiver to get the windage to be centered.
You can ask remington to replace it, or just have a gunsmith true the receiver and install a better quality barrel.
I do such work if you happen to be in Southern California.

[LynnJr]

When any factory shoots your gun they put it into a test fixture and shoot it without a scope a set of rings or a base on the rifle.

[MacOtac]

I don't know what is going on... The gun smith did nothing but bore zero it and shoot it, confirming zero was off.

So it is not the scope or rings.

Only thing left was the base, stock, barrel or action holes are the issues.

I am sending back to Remington to see what is going on first (cause it is free). If they send it back and it is still jacked up, I will come see you AR15...