How far can you reliably shoot?

[Wnick308]

I would say 600 yards with a scoped ar15 and 800 yards with a bolt gun in any weather conditions. The last 3x600 at SAC valley was a little tough with the ar15 but most shots were in that 8".


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[CandG]

I still haven't really been to a range where I can shoot either prone, or from past 200 yards. But from a bench 200yds out, using an optic of some kind, I can hit your 8" paper plate pretty much 100% of the time, except the occasional flier due to a bee buzzing around my face or something. I realize that's not that impressive to say, I just haven't really had a chance to shoot from further distances yet to really test myself. Pretty confident that I'd have at least a 66% hit rate at 500yds though, on a calm day, with the right rifle. For whatever that's worth - not much, I know

I suck with iron sights, I won't even try to make myself sound like I'm anything close to resembling a marksman with those.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

The first time I knocked down the 300m silhouette in Army BRM, I tried to jump out of the fighting position and dance a celebratory Irish jig. Luckily, my Drill Sergeant was able to kick me square in the k-pot and knock me back down into the hole and finish my 40 rounds.

[FourT6and2]

This is long but worth the watch if you have time.

He's calling BS on 90% of the guys that already posted in this thread

Don't even have to watch the video to know anything contained in it is BS. That guy is nothing but hot air.

I am seeing some familiar names in this thread and I think most of us have the competition targets to back it up. If you want to see some people making hits at range come to one of the many long range matches in the state. I like the NCPPRC in Sac but there are many. I was there some time ago and saw a guy put three rounds in the head of the target at 1000 in a 15mph, gusty, near full value wind. I was impressed to say the least. I am personally making a load to shoot at the URSA 2054yrd match one of these days when I don't have to work on the day they hold it. Granted that is with a 338 LM, but with practice, a good shooting position, and good wind reading you can get a lot done. I find the 185gr Berger a real contender for 308 long range loads.

Exactly. Anybody who has their doubts can simply show up at one of the many long-range matches held at Sacramento Valley and see for themselves. Or Coalinga. Or any other long-range shooting range.

There is what actually happened out there, and then there is the long winded self-aggrandizing that occurs in the clubhouse, around the campfire, etc. As much as everyone fancies themselves as some sort of junior Jerry Miculek/Vasuly Zaitsev/Carlos Hathcock/Alvin York/SimoHayha/That Canadian Guy, most people are probably about average in their skills.

I can't speak for anybody else, but I'm willing to prove it. Come on out to Sac Valley sometime. Anytime. There are 1,000-yard matches there every month. You'll see 20-30 people hitting their mark without too much effort. It ain't that hard. Much easier than Golf. And they broadcast the scores to everyone right after the match. So there's nowhere to hide.

I'm typically at the bottom of the pile. So that should tell you that the folks who are really good have no reason to BS about their abilities. There's a post on this forum from the other day with some of the latest scores at the State Championship in Coalinga. You're telling me those scores are all lies? C'mon man. Gimme a break. I've been shooting competitions for less than a year. It isn't that hard:

600 yards. X-Ring is 3".




600 yards. 3" X-ring.
Total points possible: 600. So I shot 94% that day.




800, 900, and 1,000 yards. 5" X-Ring.
Total points possible: 450. So I shot 95% that day.

[Wnick308]

Every time I see a target like that I think about the poor spotting disk that is just shot up but it makes it easy pulling though.


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[BillyGoatCrawler]

Is that on your new rifle 46&2?

[FourT6and2]

Every time I see a target like that I think about the poor spotting disk that is just shot up but it makes it easy pulling though.


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lol yeah, my goal is to make it as easy on the target puller as possible

But look at someone like bsumoba. I scored his shooting at the last match I went to and he's impressive.

Is that on your new rifle 46&2?

Well it's the same rifle I've had for the past year, if that's what you're asking?

[BillyGoatCrawler]

lol yeah, my goal is to make it as easy on the target puller as possible

But look at someone like bsumoba. I scored his shooting at the last match I went to and he's impressive.




Well it's the same rifle I've had for the past year, if that's what you're asking?

No was just curious if it was results from the one you've been having built. Is that the loaner 6.5?

[FourT6and2]

No was just curious if it was results from the one you've been having built. Is that the loaner 6.5?

Oh, I've had the rifle since May. So going on 6 or 7 months now.

[milotrain]

Gimme a break. I've been shooting competitions for less than a year. It isn't that hard.

This is the thing that people don't really understand. Competition shooting in the most common style of Longrange is sort of a binary experience. People think it's impossible because compared to plinking at the range it is, but then getting into an Expert card is not really that hard at all, it's just getting rid of the most egregious bad habits. After that it's not that hard either, the target is HUGE and our guns are really good. But then there is a day when you care about X count and you want to win money and it's blowing 25mph and Jim O'Connell is right next to you telling you that "it's easy just don't shoot 9s" and it's not easy at all!!!

It is however, quite satisfying.

[Carcassonne]

-Irons w/ Ar-15 supported prone out to about 500
-Magnified optics on Ar-15 supported prone about 700 with no wind and good factory ammo

You can see an 8" pie plate at 500 yards?



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[FourT6and2]

This is the thing that people don't really understand. Competition shooting in the most common style of Longrange is sort of a binary experience. People think it's impossible because compared to plinking at the range it is, but then getting into an Expert card is not really that hard at all, it's just getting rid of the most egregious bad habits. After that it's not that hard either, the target is HUGE and our guns are really good. But then there is a day when you care about X count and you want to win money and it's blowing 25mph and Jim O'Connell is right next to you telling you that "it's easy just don't shoot 9s" and it's not easy at all!!!

It is however, quite satisfying.

Yeah, before I got my AR15, I was like, "how the hell do people hit the target at 100 yards with just iron sights? I can't even see 100 yards lol. Then I got the rifle and I was like... oh... yeah... not hard.

Then before I got my bolt-action, I was like... no way can anybody hit a bullseye at 1,000 yards. How is that even possible? Then I got my bolt-action and started shooting the long-range comps. And now I'm like... oh... yeah... not hard.

This **** is actually boringly easy. But once you get down into the minutia of wanting to get all Xs on a 5" target at 1,000 yards... then yeah, it becomes much harder. It's a game of moving goalposts really. The bi-monthly steel matches the NCPPRC holds are very fun. Much different ballgame. But also incredibly satisfying because you're not just sitting or laying there like a couch potato lol

[FourT6and2]

You can see an 8" pie plate at 500 yards

You know... that's what I thought before I started actually trying to do it. And yeah, you can hit an 8" target at 500 yard with irons no problem. The very FIRST match I shot was an NRA Highpower 3x600 with no magnifying scope. I did "ok" for my first time. But no... I don't think anybody can see an 8" pie plate siting all by itself at 500 yards. But most competitions have targets that are a few feet square. And the center ring is small, like 3" or 6" or something like that. So while you can't see the center, you can still align yourself with it because you can see the larger target around it. If you put an 8"plate up out in the desert and said go find it and shoot it with iron sights, I couldn't do it. Because I wouldn't be able to see it with the naked eye.

But understand that folks in the military have to qualify on their rifles during basic training at distances like 500 and 600 yards with just iron sights. It ain't that hard.

Maybe look up what a typical Highpower match entails. It's all iron/open sights (unless you're F-Class or F-Open or F/TR, etc.). And the distances go out to 1,000 yards depending on the specific course of fire.

[randomBytes]

Hey Guys,
I know there are a lot of virtual snipers out there but i was just curious...how far can you reliably shoot out to from a prone position. Reliably meaning you can consistently hit into a 8 inch wide pie plate/target.

200 yards on the clock - mostly 1 shot per hit.

That's the furthest I've shot in recent times, many years ago shot 300, 600 and 900 yards with irons, could mostly stay in the bulls eye at 300, don't recall how I did at 900 (was almost 30 years ago ;-) and those targets were much bigger than 8" - though the bulls eye maybe that or smaller.

[milotrain]

You can see an 8" pie plate at 500 yards?

You know... that's what I thought before I started actually trying to do it. And yeah, you can hit an 8" target at 500 yard with irons no problem. But no... I don't think anybody can see an 8" pie plate siting all by itself at 500 yards. But most competitions have targets that are a few feet square. And the center ring is small, like 3" or 6" or something like that. So while you can't see the center, you can still align yourself with it because you can see the larger target around it. If you put an 8"plate up out in the desert and said go find it and shoot it with iron sights, I couldn't do it. Because I wouldn't be able to see it with the naked eye.

Carcassonne, do not miss the fact that this is some of the most important aspects of shooting irons. 46&2 just gave you the secret sauce, do not ignore it.

I was being a dick at the range the other day and felt like showing off so I put on my 600 yard elevation, got down in prone with a sling next to a guy on the line with a "custom bolt rifle wearing optics and a bipod" shooting off a bench and proceeded to ring a 12x16" steel plate 100% of the time. I could only see that plate when looking down range, not when actually on the rifle because obviously I'm focusing on the front sight not the target. But I know where on the berm that plate is, I know where it is hanging on the target frame, and where it's shadow formed. I shoot the plate while sighting off the world around the plate. I pickup the frame and a hint of the plate then shift my focus hard onto the front sight, keeping in my peripheral vision the location of the post on the frame and berm, then break the shot with hard front sight focus.