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  • #46
    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44094

    Originally posted by Dnele928
    No need to guess. Hodgdon reload site lists Win 30-30 at a overall case length of 2.550". Go measure what you have.

    Also, you really confused things by showing 30-06 ammo. You should have only shown the 30-30 ammo.

    Anyway, go measure your ammo, report back the result.
    LOL. That is maximum length for all guns. It is not wrong or unsafe to go longer depending on the actual bullet profile and the exact chamber and throat one is loading for. Many "factory" rounds are going to be well under published COAL.
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    • #47
      Spyder
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2008
      • 17137

      Just sell them, with a VERY CLEAR disclaimer that they are NOT to be fired, but only to be torn down for components. Some cheapskate like me will give a couple bucks for the brass and bullets to reuse.

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      • #48
        stingray4540
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 555

        Ok, here are actual pictures. As you can see, Box and brass are marked 30-30, but if you look at the bullet(projectile) you can see how much longer and less blunt it is than the Federal 30-30.
        Attached Files
        - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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        • #49
          stingray4540
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 555

          I don't know how to add more than one attachment per comment, so here is the view of the brass
          Attached Files
          - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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          • #50
            PatC415
            • Nov 2014
            • 979

            30 cal Spitzer loaded in 30/30 brass.
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            • #51
              stingray4540
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 555

              Think I'm just going to pull them and sell the bullets.
              I'm sure I can find something fun to do with the powder. If these laws pass, I'm going to need to learn how to start reloading so I'll probably save the brass for now.
              - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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              • #52
                duckman1
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2009
                • 3737

                Have you inspected the cases to look for sizing marks?

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                • #53
                  AGGRO
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2793

                  Not to trust that box but I've loaded the first round as a spitzer before. You just hope that deer goes down with the first round unless it's close.

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                  • #54
                    stingray4540
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 555

                    Originally posted by duckman1
                    Have you inspected the cases to look for sizing marks?
                    What would sizing marks look like?
                    - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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                    • #55
                      AGGRO
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2793

                      Originally posted by stingray4540
                      What would sizing marks look like?
                      from being resized in a reloading die set. streaks on the outside of the case.

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                      • #56
                        stingray4540
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 555

                        Not really. Some scuffs here and there on some, not on others, but no real obvious uniform streaking as if they all went through the same machine process.
                        - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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                        • #57
                          duckman1
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                          • Aug 2009
                          • 3737

                          Scratches

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                          • #58
                            dskit
                            Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 393

                            Reading this thread made my head hurt.

                            Have you considered single loading them, pulling the trigger and seeing what happens?
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                            • #59
                              stingray4540
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 555

                              Originally posted by dskit
                              Reading this thread made my head hurt.

                              Have you considered single loading them, pulling the trigger and seeing what happens?
                              Yes, if I had 10 of them. Single loading 280 of them, though, would get old real quick.
                              - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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                              • #60
                                pacrat
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                                • May 2014
                                • 10285

                                stingray;

                                Here is a pic of what actual Winchester 30-30 150 gr. Power Point ammo looks like.

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                                Yours, are as you originally surmised "reloaded cartridges" using bullets not suitable for use in a tube fed rifle.

                                Since you do not know the origin of these reloads. Common sense, and documented bad things happening in the past. Make NOT shooting them a prudent choice.

                                Your ammo, your choice.

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