50 cal upper questions

[Whiterabbit]

why not sell all the non cohesive bits and just get one working 50 cal?

Don't need a non rifle with DTC dies and the beo is now what you wanted, as you said yourself.

Sell it all and get a DTC upper and use the dies to load and be happy?

[AFTII]

50 cal ban is any gun that chambers 50BMG. no chamber 50 BMG, good to go.

>50 cal ban is to not be considered a DD (shotgun slugs and specific sporting rifles are exempted), metric is a .500 pin gauge shall not drop down the barrel. Because calibers (the real definition of the word caliber) refer to the bore diameter, the lands that stick out will block an even smaller pin gauge. In our cases, a .510 bore, unless severely worn or damaged, will not pass a .500 pin gauge, thus not a DD in any definition of the term.

If it DID pass a .500 pin gauge, makers of such barrels and rifles would apply for a sporting exemption, and there's plenty of >50 cal cartridges out there for dangerous game hunting that meet this criteria.

Thus, you see cases out there like the 700WTF, using a 50BMG case cut at the shoulder and fireformed straight. Or the 24 gauge FH or 58 Hubbel cartridges.

Anyways, yes the 50 beowulf and even the .510 beowulf wildcat (yes this exists) are legal in CA.

It's .60 Cal, not .50 cal. See, Cal. Penal Code Section 16460(a)(3):

"16460. (a) As used in Sections 16510, 16520, and 16780, and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 18710) of Division 5 of Title 2, "destructive device" includes any of the following weapons: . . .

(3) Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which fires fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than a shotgun (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, shotgun ammunition (single projectile or shot), antique rifle, or an antique cannon."

[RickD427]

It's .60 Cal, not .50 cal. See, Cal. Penal Code Section 16460(a)(3):

"16460. (a) As used in Sections 16510, 16520, and 16780, and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 18710) of Division 5 of Title 2, "destructive device" includes any of the following weapons: . . .

(3) Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which fires fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than a shotgun (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, shotgun ammunition (single projectile or shot), antique rifle, or an antique cannon."

AFTII,

Whiterabbit is actually correct here (unless the possessor has a Federal Tax Stamp for a DD between .50 and .60 Caliber).

You have correctly quoted the California law defining Destructive Devices, but you also need to remember that Federal Law also applies.

The federal law defines Destructive Devices (with he exception of shotguns) as having a bore greater than a half-inch (.50 Caliber). Please refer to 18 USC 921. Here is the relevant text:

and which has any barrel with a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter

[CSACANNONEER]

50cal,

If you're serious about getting into the 50 game, why not come check out a FCSA match, meet some 50 shooters and check out different 50s that are capable of doing well in matches? There's a match in California at the end of May.

I got a Ferrett because a brand new Ferrett upper was available locally at a reasonable price. I would have preferred to get an ALS but I didn't want to wait 12-18 months. What are you looking at?

I love my ALS and it was worth the wait. I did pick up a 18" or 20" (I forget which) Ferrett upper a couple years ago to use as a range toy so, I now have both.

LOL.

I too have that set of DTC dies and don't own a DTC rifle

I have a set too and have never owned a .510DTC. I purchased them so that I can help out new 50 shooters if need be.

[blackberg]

why not sell all the non cohesive bits and just get one working 50 cal?

Sometimes I feel I run the Department of Redundancy Department.

Don't need a non rifle with DTC dies and the beo is now what you wanted, as you said yourself.

The dies are the only piece of reloading equipment I own. Beowulf runs $1.40 a round compared to BMG and DTC of about $3-4/round. And I have uppers in 6 calibers now, one more doesnt hurt.

Sell it all and get a DTC upper and use the dies to load and be happy?

Other than selling ammo taking up space or to help someone out, I havent sold any firearm stuff in about 5-6 years. Similar but different is OK in my collection.

-bb

[sigstroker]

Still limited to 10 round belts

Unless you had old ones. I had 3 100 round belts.