50 cal upper questions

[50cal]

Disregard my name... I know nothing about 50s, it was an impulse years ago lol.

I'm looking for some info on 50 cal uppers... There seems to be some confusion depending who I ask about the legality. Are all 50 uppers banned (that are not dtc)? I want to build a single shot stubborn mule lower and just want to make sure when I purchase an upper, I don't cause myself any grief down the road...

[Shakey]

Went through this last year - if you are building a new rifle on a new lower then you are stuck with DTC. The only way to legally make a "new" BMG is if you own a previously registered AW/BMG lower/action or if you are buying something that is not legally considered a rifle, like an M2.

Check your local laws if you live in LA, I don't remember the specifics on the LA rules.

[rubbman]

Are you talkin .50 beowulf?

[50cal]

50 bmg rubman

[50cal]

What did you end up going with shakey

[Shakey]

What did you end up going with shakey

I got a Ferrett because a brand new Ferrett upper was available locally at a reasonable price. I would have preferred to get an ALS but I didn't want to wait 12-18 months. What are you looking at?

[V8MERC124]

A person can buy parts but a person cannot buy/assemble a non RAW 50bmg shoulder fire rifle. Someone can tripod mount a non RAW lower and put a 50 upper on it...as long as it is not shoulder fired. If you have a RAW then they should be able to make a rifle out of it. What a buyer has is not really a sellers concern technically.*

So yes you should be able to buy a 50 bmg upper.

[Quiet]

.50BMG upper by itself is not illegal.

It is illegal to use it to make a rifle.

It can be legally used to make a "long gun" that does not have a shoulder stock and is bipod or tripod mounted.




Penal Code 30530
(a) As used in this part, ".50 BMG rifle" means a center fire rifle that can fire a .50 BMG cartridge and is not already an assault weapon or a machinegun.
(b) A ".50 BMG rifle" does not include any antique firearm, nor any curio or relic as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.

Penal Code 17090
As used in Sections 16530, 16640, 16650, 16660, 16870, and 17170, Sections 17720 to 17730, inclusive, Section 17740, subdivision (f) of Section 27555, Article 2 (commencing with Section 30300) of Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4, and Article 1 (commencing with Section 33210) of Chapter 8 of Division 10 of Title 4, "rifle" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.

[50cal]

Thank you fellas, looks like it's 416 barrett for me! Shakey, I'm looking at the tactilite t2... Not really pumped about the wait time though.

[Shakey]

With all due respect to the previous two posts, I think this is why the OP is confused. He stated that he wants to purchase a new rifle lower from Stubborn Mule to make a new single shot rifle, and he wants to know if he can legally attach a BMG upper to that lower. The answer to that question is no, it needs to be a DTC or something else that is not 50 caliber.

[V8MERC124]

With all due respect....he didnt technically say anything about attaching, he asked about info on a 50 upper and purchasing one.

I want to build a single shot stubborn mule lower and just want to make sure when I purchase an upper, I don't cause myself any grief down the road...

Sounds like he wanted to build a lower
And then just buy an upper......no attaching from what I read
Lulz JK

But we did give the proper answer, as who knows...maybe he wants to triood mount it?

[ar15barrels]

Sounds like he wanted to build a lower
And then just buy an upper......no attaching from what I read

The attaching was the "causing grief" part that he wanted to avoid...

[Shakey]

But we did give the proper answer, as who knows...maybe he wants to tripod mount it?

You and Quiet were definitely correct on the law, I'm not going to argue with "Mr. CA gun laws" about how the statutes work. But, I went through this same problem when I was putting together my 50. I just wanted to know if upper A + lower B was legal and there was a lot of confusing advice.

[Whiterabbit]

Thank you fellas, looks like it's 416 barrett for me! Shakey, I'm looking at the tactilite t2... Not really pumped about the wait time though.

Why? You have to convert the brass anyways. That puts you right back to 50DTC, except now you can't use inexpensive m33 ball bullets for plinking, fun, and range handouts to folks that wanna shoot.

50 DTC just seems superior in every way to 416 barrett to me.

[LynnJr]

WhiteRabbit is correct the 510 DTC does everything better than the 416 Barrett and it's cheaper to shoot.
Nothing wrong with the 416 except it has a very limited bullet selection.
And I am with you Shakey on the legal issue. If he wasn't planning on attaching the two pieces he wouldn't have mentioned it in the first place but this is Calguns.