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  • brossiah
    Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 271

    R700

    Surprisingly, my girlfriend bought me an XLR carbon chassis for my birthday after I was kind of talking to her about building a bolt action rifle. I kind of hinted to her that this was what I wanted, and it worked

    Anyway, I've been doing some light research, and I'm thinking a 20 (maybe 24) inch barrel on a r700 SPS aac-sd for the threaded barrel and 1:10 twist rate option. .308 caliber ideally.

    However, the only main differences I can tell between the 700s, aside from which barrel length, are only the stocks. I'm not sure if there are any other major differences.

    I might have access to a 5R variant, but I'm not 100% sure at the moment.

    Am I headed in the right direction? I don't envision myself to be shooting out past 500yd, and maybe not even that far. I only have access to a 200yd range and that's only once a month.
    U.S. Army 11B
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  • #2
    hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19412

    Brossiah-

    Remington makes some "long range" guns...

    At the end of the day, if we as rifle shooters, can shoot as accurate as the gun, that is success. So if your ABC rifle shoots 2 MOA, can we keep the shots within 2 MOA at 500 yards? While a 10" group at 500 is not movie worthy, it shows that the shooter knows marksmanship....

    The nice thing about the 308 is that you can get a lot of practice before the throat opens up and you need a new barrel. At this time, you can determine if you need a new match rifle, an action job and a barrel or just a barrel....

    So you now have a $1,000 chassis
    What is your budget for the rifle?
    What is your budget for Optics, rings and mounts?
    lastly, what is your ammo budget and are you reloading?



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    • #3
      bombadillo
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2007
      • 14810

      I would take a look at the Remington 700 AAC - SD. Depending on what caliber you'd like, those have done really well right out of the box for 800 yards and under. Yes you could probably bank steal it a thousand yards, but it wouldn't be a competitive rifle I must you did some serious work to it. You could go with the 20 inch threaded model that's ready to accept a brake, and throw that stupid flimsy stock it comes with in the trash where it belongs

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      • #4
        Shakey
        Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 412

        Brossiah,

        Please, for the love of all that is broly, do not install the steaming turd that is the SPS aac-sd barreled action in your new $900 chassis. If you can get a 5R, jump on it like it is the last Smirnoff Ice at the end-of-semester kegger. Or you can have someone put a new barrel on a 700 action for you at a broriffic price. There's a whole brocean of options out there, figure out your budget and go from there.
        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
        I love it when all my flyers land close to each other.

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        • #5
          brossiah
          Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 271

          Originally posted by hermosabeach
          So you now have a $1,000 chassis
          What is your budget for the rifle?
          What is your budget for Optics, rings and mounts?
          lastly, what is your ammo budget and are you reloading?[/URL]
          Budget for the whole build was ~5k
          Since the mrs got me the chassis, I have plenty of room to play with for optics.

          I will eventually reload my rounds, but I don't have my reloader here at the moment. So until then, I'm thinking between these two

          FGM 175gr
          SMK 175gr

          I might even drop to 168gr just to experiment with loads. What kind of powder generally works well with the 700?

          Originally posted by bombadillo
          I would take a look at the Remington 700 AAC - SD. Depending on what caliber you'd like, those have done really well right out of the box for 800 yards and under. Yes you could probably bank steal it a thousand yards, but it wouldn't be a competitive rifle I must you did some serious work to it. You could go with the 20 inch threaded model that's ready to accept a brake, and throw that stupid flimsy stock it comes with in the trash where it belongs
          Yeah the AAC-SD is actually the one I'm looking at. Aside from minor velocity differences, I don't really see a difference between the 20 and 24 inch barrels. I don't even know if the AAC-SD is offered in 24 inch.

          Would anyone buy the stock? I feel like it is going to waste if I just threw it away....

          Originally posted by Shakey
          Brossiah,

          Please, for the love of all that is broly, do not install the steaming turd that is the SPS aac-sd barreled action in your new $900 chassis. If you can get a 5R, jump on it like it is the last Smirnoff Ice at the end-of-semester kegger. Or you can have someone put a new barrel on a 700 action for you at a broriffic price. There's a whole brocean of options out there, figure out your budget and go from there.
          Okay, first of all...I was laughing the whole time when I read your response. LOL

          I am still trying to figure out if the guy has the 5R for sale. It's a 300wm caliber.
          What kind of barrels are we talking about here?

          And like I said earlier, I wanted to keep this whole build (including the chassis) under 5k, but now I have a lot more options to play with since I don't need to worry about the chassis.

          The only thing that is staple in this build is the bipod (Atlantis) and the mags obviously.

          I have a G2DMR scope on my dmr but I want something a little longer. I've been looking at the Nightforce line and I've read great reviews on them, although I kind of want to keep it in mil/mil.

          Also, some questions...will I need a specific rail to mount the rings on? Or will any 20moa rail do?
          What kind of elevations for the rings should I consider?

          Now, I have to find out which gun stores can get me the 5R or AAC-SD.
          U.S. Army 11B
          instagram.com/brossiah

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          • #6
            JMP
            Internet Warrior
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Feb 2012
            • 17056

            Originally posted by Shakey
            If you can get a 5R, jump on it like it is the last Smirnoff Ice at the end-of-semester kegger.
            Which sorority are you in?

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            • #7
              brossiah
              Member
              • Dec 2014
              • 271

              Oh, also....
              This stock was meant for a 308 sa.
              If I got the 5R in 300wm, would it even fit?
              U.S. Army 11B
              instagram.com/brossiah

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              • #8
                JMP
                Internet Warrior
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Feb 2012
                • 17056

                When people refer to the "Remington 5R", they are specifically referring to the .308 24" 1:11.25 5R barrel. That is the model for which the barrel seems to be of better quality comparable to the other factory barrels used.

                You could probably use a magnum action, but it depends on how it can be inlet. I'd stick with keeping it in a short action. Really, a Remington short action is a Remington short action. Barrel, bolt, action, trigger, etc. can always be upgraded.

                Personally, if are okay with a factory Remington Barrel, get the 24" 5R barrel first, or a 26" 1:12" varmint barrel to get the most out of it. The fast twist short barrels are fine for limited range shooting, and if you only need to shoot 500 yards, you are fine with a 20".

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                • #9
                  2zero9
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 887

                  Originally posted by brossiah

                  FGM 175gr
                  SMK 175gr
                  Unless I'm totally mistaken, aren't those one and the same? FGMM uses a 175 grain Seirra Match King projectile?
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                  • #10
                    E92335i
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 2937

                    Have you looked at LTR? New version comes with threaded barrel already. Just got mine.

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                    • #11
                      wooger
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1380

                      What kind of powder generally works well with the 700?
                      Smokeless powder is a great place to start. I would use single base but there are many excellent double base powders as well.
                      vatr slapn

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                      • #12
                        Wnick308
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 845

                        Originally posted by 2zero9
                        Unless I'm totally mistaken, aren't those one and the same? FGMM uses a 175 grain Seirra Match King projectile?

                        Well, one will go bang and one wouldn't but ya those are the same.

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                        • #13
                          bombadillo
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 14810

                          Originally posted by brossiah
                          Oh, also....
                          This stock was meant for a 308 sa.
                          If I got the 5R in 300wm, would it even fit?

                          No, that is a completely different action.

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57118

                            Originally posted by brossiah
                            Oh, also....
                            This stock was meant for a 308 sa.
                            If I got the 5R in 300wm, would it even fit?
                            No.
                            You need a 308 (short action) length receiver to use that chassis.
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                            • #15
                              killshot44
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 4072

                              But let's be clear; it's the 300WM that's the issue not the 5R part. As in a .308-chambered Rem5R (like any R700 short action) would fit his chassis.

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