Question on Glock 36, round count, and 9mm vs .45ACP

[zero_shot]

Sorry if the title sounds loaded... the question has more to do with round count than "stopping power".

I've had my eye on a Glock 36 for quite a while now (especially if the Peruta case creates changes in CCW permits). It makes sense to me because I've already got a 1911 and would only need to buy one caliber of ammo. I've held one and it feels great in hand. Haven't had a chance to shoot one yet.

All the research I've done online notes - very specifically - that the Glock 36 is limited by its small round count (being 6 + 1). Most comparisons say to either get the Glock 30 or get a 9mm/.40 with higher round count (like a Glock 26/27 for example).

My question is this: why would people worry about the Glock 36's 6+1 round count of .45ACP when it seems people are flocking to the M&P Shield (7+1, 8+1), Various Kahrs in 9mm (6+1,7+1), and XDs (7+1, 8+1).

Now I do realize that the Glock 36 is slightly bigger in size than the aforementioned 9mm, but those round counts are very similar. Am I missing something?

[Bad Caselaw]

In a self defense shooting...?

...the odds of needing more than Six(6) rounds to stop the threat? Are only 40% greater than those of ending up as a Highway Fatality that same year. (so carry a spare mag)


Carry what you shoot best.




Caselaw

[zero_shot]

In a self defense shooting...?

...the odds of needing more than Six(6) rounds to stop the threat? Are only 40% greater than those of ending up as a Highway Fatality that same year. (so carry a spare mag)


Carry what you shoot best.




Caselaw

I'm more alluding to my observation that the biggest knock that people have against the Glock 36 is its "limited capacity" of rounds when some of the most popular carry guns today have an extremely similar round count - but in 9mm.

[Bad Caselaw]

I'm more alluding to my observation that the biggest knock that people have against the Glock 36 is its "limited capacity" of rounds when some of the most popular carry guns today have an extremely similar round count - but in 9mm.

Yeah, I know.

But it is the hits that count. I also have a 6+1 SIG P938 9mm w/ 147 gr. RA9T.


On-board misses, to replace skills in an SD shooting, are comforting to some people.

"More is Better"... so they feel that that makes THEM better.


Carry what you shoot best.




Caselaw

[trigger945]

People are willing to compromise capacity for concealability I guess. So they are "ok" with the Shield but not with the Glock 36?

[Cummins_Powered]

Im not terribly familiar with the glock 36 but if possible, i would carry whatever flush fit mag that comes with as the primary magazine while ccw, and then my secondary mag would be a +2 (assuming there is such a thing?). It is much easier to carry a larger mag as a secondary on your hip, than it is in the gun. (with priority placed on concealability that is)

My personal experience in ccw. YMMV

[44fred]

I carry a 36 regularly and do not feel underpowered. I do carry with the Pierce +1.
That said, if I were to buy today it would be a 30 due to round count and larger grip size, I have big hands. The 30 was not out yet when I bought my 36.
The round count thing....if you are not comfortable with 6 or 7+1, then get something else. Size and capacity are all about comprises to a point.
I want to carry my Smith 340PD but want a steel 1911 when the $hi* hits the fan.

I know what your asking...I don't get it either. If the 36 is what feels great and you are confident with it, buy it.

[claimjumper86]

Some of the arguments about round count aren't as critical here in CA due to our magazine restriction of 10. I would recommend go with the pistol that feels the best and shoots the best for you.
Caliber selection using quality self defense loads (9mm & up IMHO) statistically doesn't appear to make as much difference as shot placement, so, as above what do YOU shoot best.

[BigPimping]

Carry what feels good. Use a good SD load like Hornady or Winchester Ranger. I cannot imagine needing more than 6 rds.

[zero_shot]

So I guess I'm not missing anything (other than the occasional fliers at the range). People other than me are just as baffled by wide acceptance of the new 9mm guns in lower round counts while knocking the Glock 36 for a similar round count.

I appreciate the comments.

[Cummins_Powered]

So I guess I'm not missing anything (other than the occasional fliers at the range). People other than me are just as baffled by wide acceptance of the new 9mm guns in lower round counts while knocking the Glock 36 for a similar round count.

I appreciate the comments.

There will always be people who like top stir the pot. Plus, everyone has their own opinions. Get what you shoot and conceal best. Hell, I can conceal my full sized xd pretty easily and im not a huge guy (6' 200lbs). There are times where i want to carry and my best option is a snub nosed 5 shot 38spl. It is a hell of a lot better than nothing.

[crufflers]

Now I do realize that the Glock 36 is slightly bigger in size than the aforementioned 9mm, but those round counts are very similar. Am I missing something?

No, you didn't miss anything. If I got another Glock the 36 is at the top of the list, and I already have a Shield and a 30S... and bought a LCR 9mm.

[zero_shot]

No, you didn't miss anything. If I got another Glock the 36 is at the top of the list, and I already have a Shield and a 30S... and bought a LCR 9mm.

Admiring that stable you got there

[liberty47]

That lcr 9mm bug is contagious

[SB1964]

Carry what you shoot best X3. People tend to study, look at gelatin, wonder & even worry "hmmm, 9, 40 or 45" Bullet weights, extended mags, bone stock vs. modified. I could go on ad naseaum. I've watched countless videos of cops (including international) at a SHTF situation & most rounds aren't even close to target. Skipping off asphalt, hell, look at the Blue Tacoma, we all saw it. Not here to bash cops, or anyone else. I've had to produce a weapon in a defensive situation. Scary thing to do, what did I take out? The pistol I shot the best. Make sure you know which one it is.