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  • #46
    crufflers
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2011
    • 12723

    I have been really happy with my Glocks for years and never had any problems with the seven or so calibers I shoot on a regular basis through them.

    Lately though, these threads on the Internets have me worried. Should I dump all my Glocks because of these threads? Do these threads mean all these Glocks are unreliable or am I just too sensitive? Threads are really worrisome though!

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    • #47
      himurax13
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 3895

      Originally posted by ElDub1950
      I did have a weird thing with my new Glock 34 Gen4 today that was completely unexpected. I've had about 600 rounds through it with no problems at all. Today my friend wanted to try it and she had FTEs nearly every round. Struggled through 2 mags with probably 15 FTEs. Now, I was shooting 115gr reloads I bought at the range because I haven't had time to reload any lately. But again, I didn't have any problems with them and I went through about 300 rnds today.

      But the odd part is that she shoots great with her Glock 27, 23, 42, Colt Mustang, my Glock 19 and 26, and today she was shooting her new Desert Eagle 1911 so it's not a case that she doesn't know what she's doing. But with the light loads in my G34, it was a big fail. We tried some grip adjustments and she was finally able to get through most a mag without FTEs.

      I have no doubt that if I had my normal 124gr medium power loads that she would not have any problem and we're going to test that next week.

      But now, I'm convinced that a lot of people complaining about Glock FTEs are for the same reason .. too wimpy rounds in a new gun with maybe a less that ideal grip. I know that in several threads here complaining about it people were shooting the cheapest 115gr rounds they could find.

      So, yes, are some issues with Glock FTEs but they're ammo/user induced, IMHO.

      The smaller glocks have a slightly different shape that seems to favor smaller hands. The full size glock does feel bigger in comparison.

      IMHO I feel like I have to lock my wrists a little harder while shooting tupperware vs shooting steel guns in order to manage the recoil better. That may have more to do with it than simply gripping the gun harder. Path of least reistance and all that jazz.

      If you are using the Gen 4 recoil guiderod with weak loads, that can give you issues since the Gen 4's need almost factory loads or greater in order to cycle the slide properly.

      If you get a Gen 3 guiderod and adapter, you can go lighter on the recoil spring to run weaker loads.

      As far as reliability is concerned, I believe glocks that are nearly stock using factory or hotter ammo and standard capacity mags are as reliable as anything on the market. However, they are far from perfect.
      Last edited by himurax13; 01-10-2015, 8:20 AM.
      Originally posted by Bumslie
      HK - the best 600 dollar gun, 900 dollars can buy.
      Originally posted by Sleighter
      Getting legal advice from a gun salesman, is like getting medical advice from a janitor at a hospital. Both make about the same per hour and both prove that being around something all day doesn't make you an expert.

      Lifetime NRA member.

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      • #48
        Str8Shoot3r
        Banned
        • Dec 2014
        • 167

        I've never had a malfunction of any kind in any of my Glocks. Ive sent thousands of rounds through each. Glock 17,19,20,21, and 34. Not one issue. Ever.

        NSN number for US Army issue Glock 19 was:
        NSN: 1005-01-571-9875
        Glock 19 9mm Pistol
        Last edited by Str8Shoot3r; 01-10-2015, 6:09 AM.

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        • #49
          MCM
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 553

          Originally posted by Str8Shoot3r
          I've never had a malfunction of any kind in any of my Glocks. Ive sent thousands of rounds through each. Glock 17,19,20,21, and 34. Not one issue. Ever.
          Agree, only issue I have ever had was from shooting underpowered Freedom arms "new" .380 ammo from my 42.
          Not enough poop to fully cycle the slide 100% of the time. No fault of the gun at all. Runs 100% on all the other name brands I have tried.
          My Gen4 27/30s/22 have worked with all the ammo I have ever used.
          My 22 has been purring along with me for 20 years now. Zero problems. Ever.

          One thing that seldom comes up are Glock mags. Of all my "stuff", I think these are the best mags made.
          They just work and seem to be indestructible. Not sure why Sig, HK, / others have not copied them. Wish they would.........
          Last edited by MCM; 01-10-2015, 6:43 AM.

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          • #50
            smittty
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2008
            • 6254

            Originally posted by Canadadry
            Again, I'm a Glock fan and will go with the 19.
            I'm not a glock fanboy but I think that's the better choice.

            I owned multiply CZ and my favorite was the PCR but I still sold all of them...P01, PCR, SP01, Phantom, all of them. I used to me a CZ fanboy but eventually got frustrated with triggers and holsters.

            My PCR had the best trigger but I still settled on the G19. I shoot both equal well but there are far more holster options for the glock and I don't even really like Glocks.

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            • #51
              tnlrat37
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2166

              Have a 17, 42, and 26, only problem me or wife ever had was when she loaded .380 in the 17 by accident at the range. Round still fired just didn't have enough power to rack it. Whoops
              "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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              • #52
                tonyxcom
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2011
                • 6397

                Originally posted by tnlrat37
                Have a 17, 42, and 26, only problem me or wife ever had was when she loaded .380 in the 17 by accident at the range. Round still fired just didn't have enough power to rack it. Whoops
                I've shot 380 out of a full size Sig. It's pretty close to a queef.

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                • #53
                  junior40er
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 3315

                  I love my Glock. Nonetheless, I feel "glock reliability" is over hyped.
                  Visit my Channel "Steel On Target" on YouTube and subscribe. I post gun videos reg regularly.

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                  • #54
                    himurax13
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 3895

                    Originally posted by smittty
                    I'm not a glock fanboy but I think that's the better choice.

                    I owned multiply CZ and my favorite was the PCR but I still sold all of them...P01, PCR, SP01, Phantom, all of them. I used to me a CZ fanboy but eventually got frustrated with triggers and holsters.

                    My PCR had the best trigger but I still settled on the G19. I shoot both equal well but there are far more holster options for the glock and I don't even really like Glocks.
                    Triggers and holsters?

                    Clearly you did something wrong.

                    The only trigger I have ever felt that was better than one of my homebrew CZ action jobs was a heavily worked on 1911 with the Cylinder and Slide Warp Speed kit.

                    Garret Industries makes Excellent custom holsters.
                    Last edited by himurax13; 01-10-2015, 11:08 AM.
                    Originally posted by Bumslie
                    HK - the best 600 dollar gun, 900 dollars can buy.
                    Originally posted by Sleighter
                    Getting legal advice from a gun salesman, is like getting medical advice from a janitor at a hospital. Both make about the same per hour and both prove that being around something all day doesn't make you an expert.

                    Lifetime NRA member.

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                    • #55
                      sffred
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 2421

                      IMHO Glock's made after 2011 is not as good as the older glock's, gen 4 has a big fail with the dual recoil spring, plus ytf is glock going back to conventional round spring when flat wire spring has better compression and consistency?
                      I like the gen4 glocks only if they have the conversion thing to accept the older flat wire set up. Oh I've noticed the some of the 3.5 glocks came with th last of Tenifer finish. And my 21SFp has m-cups

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                      • #56
                        SB1964
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 4876

                        Glock 19 is GTG, I currently have one. Gen 3 is just fine IMO. Make sure to get "9mm3" updated followers. Call Glock & be nice, they may send you some, or the Gstore.
                        Yes I took the pic, no I didn't go swimming!

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                        • #57
                          tonyxcom
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 6397

                          Originally posted by junior40er
                          I love my Glock. Nonetheless, I feel "glock reliability" is over hyped.
                          If you look at Glock's history of reliability, I don't think it's over-hyped at all.

                          Yes, there are Glocks that have problems. Yes, when the Gen 4's were introduced there were problems. Yes, the G42 has more problems then usual.

                          When someone asks me what the most reliable cars are, I think of Honda and Toyota. Are there Hondas and Toyotas with problems? Yep. Have they put out a few lemons here and there? Yep. But they have a history of reliability that is unmatched by no one else.

                          So does Glock.

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                          • #58
                            ACfixer
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 6053

                            I have a Gen 3 and a Gen 4 G19, I've never had a single problem with any of them except for a raunchy batch of mixed stamp 9mm reloads I bought at a gun show that caused a couple FTE's with the Gen 3. It was clearly an ammo issue, not a gun issue. I've used nothing but ten round mags in either one.

                            Thousands and thousands of rounds, the guns just shoot.

                            I have no comment on the limp-wristing thing except to say that if you use poor form in pretty much any activity you can expect poor and or inconsistent results. Golf, guitar, motorcycle riding, and shooting all come to mind.
                            Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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                            • #59
                              smittty
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 6254

                              Originally posted by himurax13
                              Triggers and holsters?

                              Clearly you did something wrong.

                              The only trigger I have ever felt that was better than one of my homebrew CZ action jobs was a heavily worked on 1911 with the Cylinder and Slide Warp Speed kit.

                              Garret Industries makes Excellent custom holsters.
                              I've owned at least one of each of CZ's metal 75's. You can claim your home brew trigger is that good but that just tells me you haven't experienced enough CZ triggers. A single action 75 trigger can be tuned pretty well but not so doable on DA/SA especially a decocker version. I know because I owned many of them, paid for trigger jobs and did my own trigger jobs.

                              I also don't care to pay for custom holsters. Why, when choosing a G19 allows you probably more holster options than any other gun of similar size.

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                              • #60
                                Dingusmalarky
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 178

                                Originally posted by smittty
                                I've owned at least one of each of CZ's metal 75's. You can claim your home brew trigger is that good but that just tells me you haven't experienced enough CZ triggers. A single action 75 trigger can be tuned pretty well but not so doable on DA/SA especially a decocker version. I know because I owned many of them, paid for trigger jobs and did my own trigger jobs.

                                I also don't care to pay for custom holsters. Why, when choosing a G19 allows you probably more holster options than any other gun of similar size.

                                CZs can fit in holsters other than those just made for CZs. You have to search around a bit online but they're out there. I think Hickok45 was using a glock holster in his CZ video and he said it fit perfectly. There are a lot of holsters for the glock but there are also more than enough for the CZ...that being said I'm most likely getting a custom holster made for mine

                                I just don't like glocks, I have a few and I'm not really crazy about them, I get that they're reliable and fairly accurate they're just not my thing...don't know how to explain it really
                                Last edited by Dingusmalarky; 01-10-2015, 12:41 PM.

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