Glock Reliability

[Canadadry]

Let me start by saying that I'm a Glock fan. I love my Gen4 17. I'm not here to bash Glock. I have to move to Utah for work. I'm going to get my CCW and I'm considering a Glock 19 or CZ P01.

My concern is that at least lately its seems like there are a lot more threads with Glock reliability issues. I didn't see these issue in the past. I realize that there could be a lot of reason for this.

I think a Glock 19 would be perfect for CCW for someone with my size. Let me know what you guys think.

[himurax13]

You would be correct about the Glock 19.

I think most of the current issues revolve using HD ammo with the 10 round mags. Otherwise the rest could probably be attributed to limp wristing.

[mpc8240]

Just like Steve Jobs put it, you gripped your iPhone the wrong way.

You would be correct about the Glock 19.

I think most of the current issues revolve using HD ammo with the 10 round mags. Otherwise the rest could probably be attributed to limp wristing.

[tonyxcom]

Get the 19. I think the only problem besides the 10 rounds mags are the occasional brass to face.

The 42 is having some teething issues. But all the other Gen 4 Glocks me and buddies have (at least 10) ranging from several 17's 19's 34's and 41's are all working just fine.

Just do yourself a favor. When you are evaluating a new gun. Don't use reloads or any below-average ammo. Use american made brass cased factory ammo. That way you can spend less time identifying any potential issues as ammo related.

The most annoying thing to read these days when any pistol problem thread pops up is that "these reloads work fine in all my other guns".

[DRAB_81]

I have 3 GEN 4 9mm's (17/19/34) with about 11k rounds through them collectively. All of them have the early "problem" parts in them, and I've had zero issues. For every reliability complaint you see, there are thousands of Glock 19 owners out there that have had no problems. Take what you read on the Internet with a grain of salt. There will always be more people posting about problematic guns than people posting about guns that function properly, and that's not limited to Glocks. If I had listened to the Internet, I never would have bought a GEN 4 G17, much less a 19 & 34.

[Dingusmalarky]

Has anyone had a p01 fail?

[cocorador]

I have a gen1 glock 19. It's actually my favorite 9mm. I,ve shot so many rounds through it that the front sight fell off. It had aftermarket night sights on that were staked and not bolted. But they no longer worked and have had them replaced. In all those years of shooting it, the only hiccup i can was caused by a worn out fallower. The slide would not stay locked when the magazine was empty. It's one of the original 15 rounders that came with the pistol. So I replaced the fallower and no more issues. It still runs like a top. I feed it everything, hollow points and round nose. Yes I even shoot lead but I make sure I clean the barrel after a few hundred rounds or before I go back to shooting copper. I don't clean it much and never lube it. It just runs.

[USPSA GM]

Glocks are fairly reliable but they aren't perfect. Never have been, and never will be. Before I retired I spent several years training and qualifying and working as a Armorer for 1000's of LEO's every 3 months. The majority of these LEO's used the Glock, either the G17 or the G21. The most common failures were the trigger springs and the cross pins followed by cracking slides and severe pitting of the breachface.

Glocks are good guns but they are mechanical devices and all mechanical devices have a failure rate.

[vintagearms]

When first buying a glock for ccw, dont first start adding aftermarket parts and reloaded ammo. Shoot it as is and use factory ammo. Glock has made some changes, some good, some bad and its only a marketing coined term of glock perfection.

[DRAB_81]

Has anyone had a p01 fail?

If anyone on here that owns a P01 did have a failure, I doubt they'd admit it on Calguns. Cz fanboyism runs WAY deeper here than Glock fanboyism. Plus, for every P01 owner on Calguns, there are hundreds if not thousands on here that own Glocks, so there's a much bigger pool to draw data from.

[tacticalcity]

Just like Steve Jobs put it, you gripped your iPhone the wrong way.

I've seen people limp wrist everything from 1911s to Sigs to you name it.

Semi-autos need the frame to stay relatively still so the slide can cycle all the way back and load the next round. So if you do not hold the gun right, and do not keep that gun from coming back or flipping too much the slide cannot come back far enough to do it's job.

The term "limp wristing" isn't just about the wrist...but about keeping a solid firing platform for the gun to recoil against and do what it was designed to do. There are several different schools of thought on which stance and technique work best. But even done right, if you are fatigued your wrist will start to betray you. It is the weakest link in the chain. Hence the term "limp wristing".

This is why a light gun chambered in a heavy/powerful round experience this phenomenon more so than a heavy gun chambered in a light bullet. The heavier the gun the less felt recoil there is. The lighter the round the less felt recoil there is. So fatigue does not set in as quick. You could shoot a Steel Frame 5" 1911 chambered in 22 Caliber all day long and then some without limp wristing it. Up the caliber to 10mm and you'll get fatigued a lot quicker and likely experience limp wristing long before you reach say 1000 rounds in a single shooting session no matter how good you are. Now put that 10mm is a really light polymer gun and you'll likely experience limp wristing much, much sooner.

But how quickly you get fatigued is not the only factor in choosing a gun. For example, while a heavy gun is wonderful in this regard...it is heavy and big! Not a lot of fun to carry all day long, especially concealed. You have to find the right balance to fit whatever your needs are, especially when it comes to duty or concealed carry.

Haters want to make this a Glock thing. It's really not. Those who actually think it is seriously lack experience. Those who know it isn't, but say it is to be cute or funny are just annoying!

[CK_32]

Glock is a mechanical part. It is as reliable as any tool or firearm properly made.

Same as any firearm not made properly will fail. Lemons do happen. Glocks are just simpler so it has less chance to fail or easier problems to fix because there is much fewer things to break, go wrong and maintain.

That said, let the glock hate, and praise continue

[tbc]

....Plus, for every P01 owner on Calguns, there are hundreds if not thousands on here that own Glocks, so there's a much bigger pool to draw data from.

Agree. The data must be normalized for accurate comparison. It is not how many that fail but what percentage that fail. That being said, there is no way to obtain such a data based on too many bias opinions.

OP, the only way for YOU to pick the a better one as your CCW is to shoot a lot from YOUR handguns.


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[bsg]

I have a gen1 glock 19. It's actually my favorite 9mm. I,ve shot so many rounds through it that the front sight fell off.

how did you manage to get the rarest Glock handgun ever made? pictures, please! admittedly, if i had a Gen 1 G19 it would sit in the safe regardless of the condition it was in when i got it.

OP, the G19 is a great weapon.

[tacticalcity]

how did you manage to get the rarest Glock handgun ever made? pictures, please! admittedly, if i had a Gen 1 G19 it would sit in the safe regardless of the condition it was in when i got it.

OP, the G19 is a great weapon.

Bear in mind, there are a lot of people who confuse Gen 2 with Gen 1. Not saying this is the case here, just saying it is a common thing.