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  • #31
    phase1
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 1753

    Originally posted by GardoneVT
    Perhaps Im missing an ingredient ,but why go through the hoops to own something which is functionally similar to an easier-to-get, on-roster model?
    Why I go thru sse is because there's no ar or ak pistols on roster & Some CA models are hard to find
    Last edited by phase1; 11-15-2014, 6:15 PM.
    Originally posted by Intimid8tor
    I don't need one but I might need one.

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    • #32
      Jet Setter
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2012
      • 5348

      There is so much more available with SSE. Yes, there are similarities with an SSE version and CA version. However, the subtle changes in a model make it special and more functional to the end user.

      Having said that, I don't have any SSE guns. Can't afford the ones I "think" I want.
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      1. PW 800+ Hydro Multispeed (just the hydraulic unit that also works with Spolar press)
      2. PW 800B converted to 800C (12 gauge) with lots of accessories and upgrades
      3. Hornady 366 (12 gauge)

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      • #33
        speedrrracer
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 3355

        Originally posted by GardoneVT
        Perhaps Im missing an ingredient ,but why go through the hoops to own something which is functionally similar to an easier-to-get, on-roster model?
        Next time you want to buy a gun, just tell me handgun or rifle, I'll tell you how much money to send me, and I'll mail you the gun.

        Sound good to you? No? Why not? What do you care? Any gun I give you will be functionally similar to what you want, right?

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        • #34
          Lead Waster
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Sep 2010
          • 16650

          Originally posted by saudadeii
          It's OK, you don't have to "get it".
          Yeah pretty much this.

          If you are happy with the roster guns thats great!
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          • #35
            tbc
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2011
            • 5955

            Please show me an on-roster handgun with exchangeable backstrap.

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            • #36
              maylebox
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 1155

              Last edited by maylebox; 11-15-2014, 7:21 PM. Reason: spelling correction
              "Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here"

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              • #37
                Sigbird
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 1237

                All the guns I own happen to be off roster. I purchased them because they were the ones I liked and wanted, not because they were off roster.

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                • #38
                  Erion929
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 4706

                  Not only that, when you sit down to eat at The Roster, the waiters stick a red flag on your forehead that says "I'm eating!". Then, when your girl gets up from the table to go to the bathroom, the waiters disconnect you by pulling your utensils so you can't eat until she comes back
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                  • #39
                    vipertom1970
                    Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 222

                    Most new guns will have the stupid loaded chamber indicator that serves no purpose.
                    Last edited by vipertom1970; 11-15-2014, 8:19 PM.

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                    • #40
                      TheShagg
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 352

                      Originally posted by vipertom1970
                      Most new guns will have the stupid chamber load indicator that serves no purpose.
                      Who gives a crap about that. How about the fact that the mag disconnect safety could get you killed in a defense situation.

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                      • #41
                        The Gleam
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 13043

                        Originally posted by GardoneVT
                        Perhaps Im missing an ingredient ,but why go through the hoops to own something which is functionally similar to an easier-to-get, on-roster model?
                        To a point I agree, such is with a Glock, but the same can't be said for a new Glock 17L which the originals are nearly un-obtanium in "new" condition. So I got one. And one could say an XD is similar to a CZ P07, is similar to an M&P, is similar to a SIG 227, and so on - but not after I've checked out each and there are features of each that surpass the old models still renewing on the roster for the past decade.

                        If I already have something similar to what is on the roster, sure, not jumping at it - but if I didn't - may as well get it now for what I REALLY want, and not something "like" what I want.

                        There is soooo much that is not on the Roster that is available by SSE that will NEVER be on the roster, not merely because of microstamping, but because of lacking either a mag-disconnect or loaded chamber indicator, or both. And those things will have distinct features, better triggers, and such over what is on the roster.

                        2011 to now have been some very good years for firearm innovation, but unfortunately most all of those guns could never be added, so in some cases we in CA are stuck with designs more than 20 years old (such as most of the Glocks and the USP that are on the roster. The USP came out in 1993).
                        Last edited by The Gleam; 11-15-2014, 9:21 PM.
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                        Originally posted by Librarian
                        What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                        If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                        • #42
                          The Gleam
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 13043

                          Originally posted by LBDamned
                          OP has been Kalifornized... the exact line of thought the legislators want their minions to have...

                          There are boatloads of pistols that have functional purpose - that can't be obtained "on roster"... far too many to mention - but the one I carry often is P938...
                          HAH! I was just looking at one today, comparing it to the Kimber Solo and liking the 938 better (more 1911-like in the hand and the controls feel more like a full-size gun), and this gun instantly came to mind when looking at this thread.
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                          Originally posted by Librarian
                          What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                          If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                          • #43
                            beanz2
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12032

                            Originally posted by Erion929
                            Not only that, when you sit down to eat at The Roster, the waiters stick a red flag on your forehead that says "I'm eating!". Then, when your girl gets up from the table to go to the bathroom, the waiters disconnect you by pulling your utensils so you can't eat until she comes back

                            Good one! You order the food today, but you come back to the restaurant 10 days later to eat it. And you can only come once every 30 days.
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                            • #44
                              vipertom1970
                              Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 222

                              Originally posted by beanz2

                              Good one! You order the food today, but you come back to the restaurant 10 days later to eat it. And you can only come once every 30 days.
                              I actually paid in full for the food from the menu today but don't get to see the order until December 4 and not allow to eat until December 15.
                              Last edited by vipertom1970; 11-15-2014, 8:29 PM.

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                              • #45
                                BayBayFish
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 86

                                Gun fans and collectors are not only looking for the function of a gun.... The function of a gun is just shoot, or kill, etc....

                                Collectors want all guns out there... different color, big and small, etc... Roster list has enough guns for using to kill someone, but far less options for collectors and fans who are not intended to kill, but just for fan.

                                So the roster list is just ridiculous if they say it helps to prevent gun shot crime cases.

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