Carrying a GLOCK.... Safely?

[JackRydden224]

The obvious solution is to wear armor on your leg and foot so even if you accidentally shoot yourself you are still in the fight.

[jb octane]

The obvious solution is to wear armor on your leg and foot so even if you accidentally shoot yourself you are still in the fight.

Glock armor!

[someR1]

Simple....keep your finger(s) off the trigger and no firearm will go off.

this. plain and simple solution.

[tbc]

Couldn't you guys just holster a glock without having a round in the chamber, but still have the mag loaded? What's the risk in doing that?

The risk is when racking the slide to chamber a round, there is a low probability of jams. Again, the probability is low.

There is also a low probability of experiencing "Glock leg" if finger discipline is not being enforced.

To each their own. There is no right or wrong, IMO.

[bonusweb]

Ask an Israeli. Israeli carry isn't for me, but they draw, rack, and present in one smooth motion.

They have modern safe guns like glocks now, they no longer do that.

[mr2ndamendment]

Carrying a Glock (or other single-action striker-fire) is completely safe with a round in the chamber, but you have to follow some ground rules to do it right.

DON'T lighten the trigger. Generally, defensive guns should have a trigger that gives you a little resistance and has some intentional poundage. Keep a stock trigger (or almost near stock). There are amazing triggers available for the Glock and other polymer guns but they belong in that nice range G34 or that Pro Series M&P, but not in your carry gun. These guns are designed and made to be carried with a round in the chamber all day and they come out of the box prepared to take on that task. Putting that light, short-travel trigger in a gun like this is not recommended.

DO ensure you carry with a proper holster. With all guns, but especially safe-action guns, proper and complete trigger coverage is a must. So long as that trigger is properly covered without any possibility of travel, you're solid. For this reason I always recommend staying away from the value-based holsters, like the universal Uncle Mikes or Blackhawk soft pocket holsters or outside carry hiking holsters. If it's a safe-action gun, I recommend sturdy leather or especially Kydex.

So long as you don't bubba the trigger or drop in a match trigger, and you keep that trigger protected in a proper holster, you can safely carry a safe-action gun all day with a round in the chamber with zero problems. And yes, you should carry a gun with a round in the chamber, no matter the platform. If you want to carry an unloaded gun, just keep it at home, don't carry it.

Don't make the assumption you'll have time (or two hands available) to rack a round in the chamber. Concealed carry incidents happen in the flash of a second, there is rarely time to rack a round in the chamber, especially if you're using one arm to block a knife or deal with the threat (and that's assuming the fight hasn't already been taken to the ground already. Try racking a slide on your back with a dude on top of you with a knife). Yes the Israelis don't carry with a round in the chamber. They are a conscript army and not everyone is trained properly and they live in a war zone where there is time to ready weapons and run towards a localized firefight. What works for the IDF won't work for you in a quick personal defense scenario. Their soldiers carry weapons off-duty and living in a war zone basically equates to our military's protocols when carrying weapons inside the wire (mag inserted, nothing in chamber, weapon on safe). Don't carry weapons "outside the wire" without a round in the chamber.

[MissiontoMars]

What is universally consistant and irrefutable is this:
Humans do not intend to pull the trigger of a firearm 100% of the time when that gun is on there person or in hand. Humans make errors in judgement, and our motor-skills and hand-eye coordination, as a species, is also not 100% perfect.


Therefore, a handgun that will fire it's bullet when the trigger is depressed, 100% of time, would actually seem to be less safe and not appropriate for an admittedly IMPERFECT operator/user. A handgun that relies 100% on the operator acting with 100% profiency to NOT fire the gun when the gun is in hand will eventually cause the gun to be fired unintentionally.

A handgun that requires a deliberate action OTHER than pulling the trigger, to make it "go bang" would seem to be the more appropriate choice when looked at from this perspective.

[NytWolf]

What is universally consistant and irrefutable is this:
Humans do not intend to pull the trigger of a firearm 100% of the time when that gun is on there person or in hand. Humans make errors in judgement, and our motor-skills and hand-eye coordination, as a species, is also not 100% perfect.


Therefore, a handgun that will fire it's bullet when the trigger is depressed, 100% of time, would actually seem to be less safe and not appropriate for an admittedly IMPERFECT operator/user. A handgun that relies 100% on the operator acting with 100% profiency to NOT fire the gun when the gun is in hand will eventually cause the gun to be fired unintentionally.

A handgun that requires a deliberate action OTHER than pulling the trigger, to make it "go bang" would seem to be the more appropriate choice when looked at from this perspective.

Wow, sounds like we need computerized guns with an "Are You Sure?" button. Remember, it's all about safety now.

[ziconceo]

Wow, sounds like we need computerized guns with an "Are You Sure?" button. Remember, it's all about safety now.

He's just talking from a mathematics point. In practice this would be foolish, as I'm sure he is well aware of.

[pastureofmuppets]

Ask an Israeli. Israeli carry isn't for me, but they draw, rack, and present in one smooth motion.

Their way was developed for a largely untrained population with a diverse variety of firearms. In other words, for the lowest common denominators in people and equipment.

From a real world point of view as to self defense, needing two hands to get a gun into a fight is absurd and brings the odds of being able to use the gun for what it's designed for in an emergency pretty damn low.



An unloaded gun is for all intents and purposes a blunt instrument.

[1st Generation Gun Owner]

Hello all,

After spending some time on Youtube looking at all the Negligent Discharge's and people shooting themselves in the leg, It got me thinking and then looking at products on the market to see what Folks are doing to try to avoid a ND?

I came across this and wanted to hear peoples thoughts and if any of you are using this added safety feature on Your EDC Glock(s)?

http://www.amazon.com/Siderlock-Trigger-Safety-System-instructions/dp/B0050R6P2K/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

https://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=1173

Input is very much appreciated,
Thanks

Maybe it's just that I'm new, but I'm not comfortable with modifying the trigger on a carry gun. I also really don't like the idea of putting a finger in the trigger guard. When I start carrying, I'll probably start off with chamber empty carry, so I can see whether I'm accidentally pulling the trigger somehow without finding out the hard way.

Or if it must be a Glock give some thought to empty chamber, trigger back, loaded mag. That's an option as well.

Why trigger back?

[sammy]

Don't touch the trigger unless you want to shoot. It is really as simple as that. By far the best system in a duty pistol. That said there are several manufactures that make striker fired pistols with no manual safety. Can you say VP9?????

[NytWolf]

He's just talking from a mathematics point. In practice this would be foolish, as I'm sure he is well aware of.

He's trying to use mathematics to prove that YOU need an external safety. I don't think he CARES about reality.

[MissiontoMars]

He's trying to use mathematics to prove that YOU need an external safety. I don't think he CARES about reality.

LoL.

[MCM]

The solution for me was good quality Kydex holsters.
IWB 22&27, Pocket 42, or Trigger guard / lanyard type 22, 27 & 42.
I can now easily live with that.