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  • #31
    rm1911
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 4073

    Originally posted by riderr
    Mind to elaborate your point?

    Anytime you add internal complexity to a mechanical device you only increase the rate of failure. Especially when the purpose of the mechanical device is to prevent operation.

    The 22x series were designed in a specific manner and to function in a specific manner. I have a 228. Internally it's already more complex than my 1911's. It is an amazing piece of engineering and I love it. But the kalifornia sigs aren't brand new guns, but rather bastardized mutations. The additions had to be added into the gun, as it was never designed to be part of the gun.

    In fact I'd bet most people remove the mag disconnect thing soon as they pick it up.
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    • #32
      uhlan1
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2012
      • 6217

      Buy it....now.
      "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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      • #33
        The Bubble
        Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 343

        Buy it- I just dropped 1200 on a new one- I'd love to get a sig for half price...

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        • #34
          09rubicon
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 2133

          Originally posted by my1911tle
          I hope you bought this gun. No post that you did makes me nervous!

          I plan too, but I won't see the gun and the owner for another month or so. Don't worry, no hurry, I let you guys know either way.

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          • #35
            riderr
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2013
            • 6660

            Originally posted by rm1911
            Anytime you add internal complexity to a mechanical device you only increase the rate of failure. Especially when the purpose of the mechanical device is to prevent operation.

            The 22x series were designed in a specific manner and to function in a specific manner. I have a 228. Internally it's already more complex than my 1911's. It is an amazing piece of engineering and I love it. But the kalifornia sigs aren't brand new guns, but rather bastardized mutations. The additions had to be added into the gun, as it was never designed to be part of the gun.

            In fact I'd bet most people remove the mag disconnect thing soon as they pick it up.
            As I thought, just generalizations without any facts.

            LCI and mag disconnect were designed by the same SIG engineers, went through the same SIG QS and wouldn't ever come out if it was prone for any issues.

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            • #36
              spoolinq
              Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 328

              I'd buy it in a heart beat!

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              • #37
                JeffreyAK
                Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 105

                Originally posted by riderr
                As I thought, just generalizations without any facts.

                LCI and mag disconnect were designed by the same SIG engineers, went through the same SIG QS and wouldn't ever come out if it was prone for any issues.
                Yeah, no evidence the newer Sigs have any issues in these areas, never mind "not as safe and reliable", that's ridiculous. That said, I'm happy my pre-roster 226 lacks all this stuff. Eff the idiots in Sacramento.
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                • #38
                  riderr
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 6660

                  Originally posted by JeffreyAK
                  Yeah, no evidence the newer Sigs have any issues in these areas, never mind "not as safe and reliable", that's ridiculous. That said, I'm happy my pre-roster 226 lacks all this stuff. Eff the idiots in Sacramento.
                  If you mind reading the original post, the argument was if CA Sigs are less reliable than their counterparts. It wasn't about the quality decline over the years. Again, if you really mind reading....

                  On a separate note... Yes, back in the days the grass was greener...

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