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  • #31
    Nrai2020
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 2341

    Originally posted by Fozzie TheBear
    Compromise?......


    Image borrowed from fellow CGer post
    How many rounds does the Serbs hold? Can u put a stock on it if u own one since it's considered an AOW?
    Last edited by Nrai2020; 07-18-2014, 10:48 PM.

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    • #32
      Mossy Man
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2011
      • 7641

      looks like 2 +1?

      perfect for hunting!

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      • #33
        thorium
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 970

        Good pros and cons from the community, great info here so everyone can make their own reasoned choice! And acknowledged it was ignorant of me to throw out 90% / common sense - this is clearly one of those gray areas where many factors come into play making it a personal decision with no right size fits all

        Reasons I think are most legitimate (opinion alert):
        Familiarity - if you are best with your handgun of choice, well, that is what you're best with
        Capacity - but really negligible unless you have grandfathered mags, Leo, etc
        Easier/one hand free - definitely easier to operate, but you can shoulder a shotgun one handed for very short periods (granted you won't be able to aim for crap like this)
        Carry - better to have it on your person even if at home (but I like my comfort! Even high end holsters and slim guns are not that comfortable if you're being honest)
        Retention - certainly easier for tango to pull a shotgun from your hands than a handgun

        Reasons I think are less legitimate (again opinion alert don't start any personal attacks!)
        Kids - you should have a quick access safe (eg shotlock, ft knox pistol box) for any gun, handgun or long gun, you'll keep loaded for home defense, especially if you have kids but even if you don't
        Maneuverability - same approx length in normal fighting stances
        Noise - both will be loud as hell indoors with no hearing protection

        I'm surprised only one person brought up the stopping powr (which is complicated to measure in the real world), but the best way to put it into one number is ft lbs of enegy and a long gun will indeed deliver the better part of a whole 9mm magazine worth of energy in one shot
        Last edited by thorium; 07-18-2014, 10:50 PM.
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        • #34
          IVth Horseman
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 1583

          Originally posted by mrfat
          Handgun for maneuverability and one handed operation. Can open or close doors with other hand or grab the phone to call 911. Also easier to peer around corners with a handgun as opposed to a long gun. Every situation is different so just choose whichever option works best for you.
          I live in a duplex, so this applies to me. Also, you can conceal it if a situation requires you to check your yard.

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          • #35
            Mossy Man
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2011
            • 7641

            Originally posted by thorium
            Good pros and cons from the community, great info here so everyone can make their own reasoned choice!

            Reasons I think are most legitimate (opinion alert):
            Familiarity - if you are best with your handgun of choice, well, that is what you're best with
            Capacity - but really negligible unless you have grandfathered mags, Leo, etc
            Easier/one hand free - definitely easier to operate, but you can shoulder a shotgun one handed for very short periods (granted you won't be able to aim for ****
            Carry - better to have it on your person even if at home (but I like my comfort! Even high end holsters and slim guns are not that comfortable if you're being honest)
            Retention - certainly easier for tango to pull a shotgun from your hands than a handgun

            Reasons I think are less legitimate (again opinion alert don't start any personal attacks!)
            Kids - you should have a quick access safe (eg shotlock, ft knox pistol box) for any gun, handgun or long gun, you'll keep loaded for home defense, especially if you have kids but even if you don't
            Maneuverability - same approx length in normal fighting stances
            Noise - both will be loud as **** indoors with no hearing protection
            I have kids; it's not easy to have a quick-access long gun. They have some that only lock the action, but at the same time it's one of those out-of-sight-out-of-mind situations.

            My kids leave my safe alone but if there was a shotgun or AR in an action lock, they'd be drawn to it by just seeing it.

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            • #36
              357magnum
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 1219

              Originally posted by Malaprop14
              Uh, what? My 12 ga is WAY louder than all of my pistols, and that's just with 2-3/4. I've definitely thought of that already and would say to that - better to be deaf and alive.

              My answer is you should have BOTH for home defense. Pistol is my goto because it is easier to handle and maneuver in close quarters by far. Not sure what you mean by common sense? Both offer different uses and each has their own benefits. Personally, I've switched to a pistol caliber carbine as my secondary HD firearm and the shotgun and 1911 are on standby. There was an article in G&A not too long ago and it said everyone can have their own preference, but their top recommendation was a handgun, preferably a pistol for capacity.
              Next time you go shooting, do not wear hearing protection and fire your 12 ga and then a 9mm,.40 cal or .45acp.
              Report back on which one was worse on your hearing.
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              • #37
                Nrai2020
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 2341

                What about a pistol grip shot gun... Or a "raptor ". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUHAEvbf_I4 ?

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                • #38
                  john67elco
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 3155

                  Originally posted by davidb
                  #7/#8 are horrible load choices unless you are expecting a flock of seaguls to attack, even then it may not be sufficent

                  Originally posted by Gwalker99
                  ""Calgunners couldn't wait to start falling all over themselves as to how to best comply""


                  half of you here are weak and lame that will basically wind up being happy with .22 single shot pistols or single barrel shotguns..

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                  • #39
                    davidb
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1769

                    Originally posted by 357magnum
                    Next time you go shooting, do not wear hearing protection and fire your 12 ga and then a 9mm,.40 cal or .45acp.
                    Report back on which one was worse on your hearing.
                    obviously the specific gun matters, but typically 9mm or .45 should not be more than 5-10 decibles louder than a 12 ga, not very drastic

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                    • #40
                      thorium
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 970

                      Originally posted by bodger
                      I've got dogs to alert me to a threat, and my Remington 870 ready to go. And the phone nearby. Maybe I should rethink my HD scenario, but I always feel secure with this setup. Handgun isn't far away either, but I would grab the 870 first. Works for me, at least for peace of mind. Thankfully, I haven't had the need to use a gun for home defense so far.

                      +1 home security (all security really, from physical security to technology security) must be layered, too many clever humans to trust in one layer.

                      Whatever gun you choose you should realize video surveillance, mans best friend, etc are just as important as a firearm
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                      • #41
                        Hoshnasi
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2515

                        I'm largely playing devils advocate but standard HD shotguns are hard to clear interior doorways with into hallways. You'll most likely be in a room and need to enter a hall or cross a hall to a child's room or whatnot. Clearing from the doorway to look down the hall is a PITA compared to using a pistol.
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                        • #42
                          Munny$hot
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                          • Jul 2011
                          • 3653

                          Holding a carbine with on hand and opening doors is very easy. Most of the weight I can be placed on your forearm against the butt stock. Take a couple of cqb classes and see how viable a carbine can be. If you are ever in doubt always choose your most violent weapon when your life or the lives of love ones are in danger.
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                          • #43
                            john67elco
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 3155

                            Everyone's scenario is different and it needs to be specific to your needs. I have kids as well I have a kahr 380 in pocket even sleeping with a crimson (you get use to it) and an ar15 at ready if I have time. Flashlight should be on everyone's list no matter what you have so you don't shoot a family member. I think that's more needed than which gun to use for SD.
                            Originally posted by Gwalker99
                            ""Calgunners couldn't wait to start falling all over themselves as to how to best comply""


                            half of you here are weak and lame that will basically wind up being happy with .22 single shot pistols or single barrel shotguns..

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                            • #44
                              Canucky
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                              • Dec 2007
                              • 4260

                              What ever people choose, take some courses. Learn learn learn.

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                              • #45
                                Subotai
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                                • Jun 2010
                                • 11288

                                If I had my druthers, I'd use an M1 carbine. Hits harder than a .357 at close range, can be manipulated easily with one hand, and is short enough to use in hallways.
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