"Final Price Drop" and other funny musings...

[adamjay]

I've had nothin but good luck trading on CG. Some people have been a little slow, but always solid. Lotsa flakey inquiries, though.
"Still available?" Then nothin ever again.
"I'll take it but I don't get paid for 2 weeks."
"Will you trade for (something ridiculous)?"

I do love seeing fantastically overpriced stuff, gotta wonder if they originally got soaked or are just tryin to make a mint. Seems to me CGers are pretty knowledgeable about fair value.

I have had stuff listed for a month before it sold.

There are some sweet deals to be had but u gotta watch like A hawk, they go quick!

[neomedic]

I agree with other posters that it's hard for me to understand buying used just to save taxes or 1 in 30 rules.

For a few bucks more, I rather buy new with CC so that I can recourse if / when dealing with defective product. And as to 1 in 30, for me, it's not like I need any of them right away, it's all just to feed our sickness

Anyways, just my opinion and wanted to rant.

[hikingwithguns]

Yeah, sometimes its a bit crazy to see like new trying to go for more than brand new from a lot of the OC vendors.

Don't pay it if you don't want to and prices will adjust...someday.

[pc_load_letter]

It's amazing how many people think they can sell a used firearm 10-25% over what it would cost new from an FFL.

If the market is dictating that price, then people will be willing to pay it.

I've seen gen4 glocks go for over $800 and the same for CZ SP-01. I have sold two of my last three SP-01's for over $800.

[ShooterStymie]

The funniest thing to me is when Sellers go one step further than "Going Back in the Safe" and actually say the price is going UP if it doesn't sell at the current price. Like "Memorial Day Price Drop! - after this weekend price is going back up!". So the seller is threatening to raise the price on something that isn't selling, LOL.

There is one factor that might make me, and I imagine some other buyers, pay prices similar to what can be found from a dealer - the 1 in 30 rule. I have at times found myself stuck in the middle of a 30-day wait (or multiple 30-day waits when I have more than one gun cued up), and I don't want to wait 30 or 60 or 90 days to pick up a new gun. If a BNIB shows up in the marketplace, it might be pretty enticing.

I do hate the overpriced guns that are just bumped incessantly. The obvious issue is that there is basically no cost to the seller to set a high price and just bump for weeks or months. Of course, there is a cost to the overall community if the marketplace gets cluttered with stuff people are tired of seeing (not suggesting this is happening, but it could). My suggestion would be to allow sellers a fixed number of bumps, say 7 or 10. The seller could choose to bump every day for a week, or spread it out and bump every few days for 2-3 weeks. Then after that point, maybe add a small fee or limit the seller's ability to post new adds for a short time. Just a little something so sellers are at least a little thoughtful about what they post and what they ask.

[thorium]

I'm biased? You said you used armslist, so you found a local deal and met him Face to Face? Or was it shipped?

And who are you to say claim I'm being unethical? You're just pissed off for getting called out for potentially breaking the law. As far as I'm concerned from your posts, you're the only dishonest person here.

I don't understand how you jumped to the conclusion of an illegal transaction, and frankly, that is libel.

All my transactions, including the cited purchase of glock 36 w/ 4 magazines for $400, are always ca legal through an ffl... And of course CA DOJ has my registration to prove it. If you make another accusation like that, I will subpoena for your info under a civil libel suit.

Back to my original point... I regard many of the prices posted here in the classifieds as unethical price gouging that furthers the ca gun control agenda by raising the price of the shooting sports (just as gun control advocates want). Other venues, such as arms list or gunbroker, have fairer prices (in my opinion).

[Shenaniguns]

Information sent via PM as you're probably unaware about flipping.

My last post on this topic for those that are unaware.

And these 'flipping' deals will have people going to jail or at least losing their gun rights for felony misrepresentation on 4473s - and this will be a Fed issue piled on top of any CA issue.

Remember what happened to those Sacramento cops flipping guns?

[Kestryll]

I don't understand how you jumped to the conclusion of an illegal transaction, and frankly, that is libel.

All my transactions, including the cited purchase of glock 36 w/ 4 magazines for $400, are always ca legal through an ffl... And of course CA DOJ has my registration to prove it. If you make another accusation like that, I will subpoena for your info under a civil libel suit.

Back to my original point... I regard many of the prices posted here in the classifieds as unethical price gouging that furthers the ca gun control agenda by raising the price of the shooting sports (just as gun control advocates want). Other venues, such as arms list or gunbroker, have fairer prices (in my opinion).

A) He's right, read the law.

B) If you are thinking of filing a subpoena against CGN for his information make damn sure your ducks are in a row because I love fighting subpoenas and making people pay.

C) Again, read the law, selling more than 6 handguns in a year technically makes you a Dealer and requires an FFL.

D) As for libel, your claim is folly.

[JDW67]

I love how when the item I'm selling has been sold, I get a million PM's asking if I can can sell them the item for a slightly higher price....where were you when the item was still being offered?

[thorium]

A) He's right, read the law.

B) If you are thinking of filing a subpoena against CGN for his information make damn sure your ducks are in a row because I love fighting subpoenas and making people pay.

C) Again, read the law, selling more than 6 handguns in a year technically makes you a Dealer and requires an FFL.

D) As for libel, your claim is folly.

Kestryll, thanks for all you do running Calguns. PM sent - I won't disagree with your opinion in public. Last thing I want to do is subpoena anyone, and it's now a non-issue as Shennaniguns graciously offered to remove the content that I regarded as libelous.

[neomedic]

I wish people would leave the asking price. Like "completed listing" on ebay...helps the rest of us to gauge market pricing.

[Shenaniguns]

Kestryll, thanks for all you do running Calguns. PM sent - I won't disagree with your opinion in public. Last thing I want to do is subpoena anyone, and it's now a non-issue as Shennaniguns graciously offered to remove the content that I regarded as libelous.

I did so as I didn't feel like dealing with this.

[thorium]

I wish people would leave the asking price. Like "completed listing" on ebay...helps the rest of us to gauge market pricing.

Agree completely. The one sale I've made here of a 22 LR rifle I simply added "Sold" to the body and subject but left the price, etc. intact.

I use Blue Book of Gun Values, but EVERYTHING in CA is over-priced compared to the free states so you have to add that premium unfortunately.

[mikeyr]

for me the prices here are high...case in point, I have been looking for a rifle that my local shop said he could not get. Its $795 new, there is one on Calguns for sale at $800, no box, no papers, just the rifle in perfect condition. There is another one for sale at $750, with box and papers but a good sized scratch on the stock, this rifle has 100 (might be 75) rounds of ammo going for it so in reality the price of the rifle is about $700. Both are 3 hours drive, TWICE once to buy it and once to pick it up 10 days later.

I found a local gun shop that was willing to order it (my new favorite shop) and its in jail now at $863 out the door, brand new and will have that new gun smell. With gas prices going down to pick up the used ones I bet I will actually save a little, but even if gas was free (and its not) I am more than happy to support a local shop and get new for very little more money, the used ones were just too expensive, glad I stalled on them and did not buy.

You can get away asking more then new for something used when you can't get it new anymore, but this just shows the prices here are too high.

[gwanghoops]

I wish we could rate the classifieds and sort by hotness...

TTT TTT TTT TTT ... and then the seller deletes them as the thread gets long.