Why the Shield?

[tbc]

Because the Shield costs $200 to $300 less than the PM9.


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[agent88]

Not only is it a great little CCW pistol that's been almost impossible to find, it's slimmer and substantially cheaper than a Glock 26/27, it's less than half the price and easier to find than a Springfield EMP, has a much better trigger than Ruger's LC9, and has a better warranty than Kahr - all excellent little pistols. In other words for many of us it's the current Goldilocks of small 9mm/40S&W CCW pistols. Some of us refuse to stake our lives on anything less than a very- very reliable 9mm handgun.

About $60 cheaper than a G26 but about the same size as a G19 yet doesn't hold 10 rounds. I have never CCW so while it is slimmer it doesn't seem slim enough to be worth it. Now when you down size to say a Karr or G42 that would seem to be the kind of trade off that would be worth it.

[Lead Waster]

The size and price appealed to me but after shooting one I decided it wasn't for me. I went with a sig 239 instead. I like the grip better and prefer sa/da plus the 239 is still rostered with no lci, which I can't stand. The only thing that makes me want a shield or lcp is the fact that if you ever use your ccw gun you more than likely won't be getting it back. Much easier to buy another $350 lcp than an $800 239.

You know that they handed Zimmerman back his gun after he was acquitted.

Also, who cares about getting the gun back if you actually have to use it to save your life. That's your smallest concern.

[LBDamned]

What did you buy that was smaller than the shield?

Yeah I sort of thought it was mostly hype. Just like a "want it because we can't have it" kind of thing.
I totally understand wanting the newest and coolest CC gun though, I just don't think it's thatcool for all the hubbub that's being made about it.

it's definitely not new... the recent chatter is of course because the CA version is finally available (and many have had deposits for well over a year)...

It's a reliable, economical, and very ergonomic pistol... the recent frenzy to apply for CCW drives the desire for this combo.

[sholling]

About $60 cheaper than a G26 but about the same size as a G19 yet doesn't hold 10 rounds.

I'm not sure where you're shopping. When I priced them the everyday price for the G26 was $570 and the CA rostered Shield was $440 which is a $130 difference. It's still too early to tell how they'll compare for price when both are on sale. As for size comparisons you must have seen the shield with an extended magazine in place. The G19 is more comparable to the much smaller compact double stack (roughly G26 sized) M&P9c which fell off the roster but at $530 was still ~$40 cheaper than the Glock.

I have never CCW so while it is slimmer it doesn't seem slim enough to be worth it.

That depends on your size and build. The G19 is a good but chubby little pistol that does not fit every hand as well as the S&Ws (9c or shield). The thicker the slide the harder it is to wear comfortably and the thicker the grip the harder it is to conceal. If you're a really big guy these may not be factors that concern you but they are important to small and average sized folks.

Since California allows at least 3 pistols on a CCW it's a good idea to have a "cold winter nights" sized pistol like a G19 or Commander/CCO sized 1911; a "spring/fall" G26 sized handgun; and a "hot summer day" sized pistol like the Shield or PM9.

Now when you down size to say a Karr or G42 that would seem to be the kind of trade off that would be worth it.

Kahr's PM9 is a very nice little pistol but it's about $250 more money. The G42 is a .380 and thus not in the same league as the 9mm or 40S&W Shield and is unlikely to become readily available to the general public in California. A .380 is just too marginal for me to bet my life on.

When viewing the reviews below bear in mind that Hickok45 is a BIG dude, and that the version tested is the free state version.

[teg33]

It's a new fashion. Nothing more, nothing less. In a few months, it will be over

[SDM44]

It's cheap, decent trigger, good feel in your hand, good size for a 9mm pistol.

That being said, I had a non-CA model for a few months before I decided to sell it. Now I have a Glock 42 and I like it even more. Sure it would've been nice if it was a 9mm, but that isn't deal killer for me.

[CSACANNONEER]

It's the flavor of the month. The same thing happens with the newest makes and models of vehicles.

[agent88]

I'm not sure where you're shopping. When I priced them the everyday price for the G26 was $570 and the CA rostered Shield was $440 which is a $130 difference. It's still too early to tell how they'll compare for price when both are on sale. As for size comparisons you must have seen the shield with an extended magazine in place. The G19 is more comparable to the much smaller compact double stack (roughly G26 sized) M&P9c which fell off the roster but at $530 was still ~$40 cheaper than the Glock.


That depends on your size and build. The G19 is a good but chubby little pistol that does not fit every hand as well as the S&Ws (9c or shield). The thicker the slide the harder it is to wear comfortably and the thicker the grip the harder it is to conceal. If you're a really big guy these may not be factors that concern you but they are important to small and average sized folks.

Since California allows at least 3 pistols on a CCW it's a good idea to have a "cold winter nights" sized pistol like a G19 or Commander/CCO sized 1911; a "spring/fall" G26 sized handgun; and a "hot summer day" sized pistol like the Shield or PM9.


Kahr's PM9 is a very nice little pistol but it's about $250 more money. The G42 is a .380 and thus not in the same league as the 9mm or 40S&W Shield and is unlikely to become readily available to the general public in California. A .380 is just too marginal for me to bet my life on.

When viewing the reviews below bear in mind that Hickok45 is a BIG dude, and that the version tested is the free state version.

G26 $499

http://ocfirearms.com/glock-26-9mm-subcomp-fs-10rd/

How big is the shield?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvCsl11CyVE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[CALI-gula]

It's the flavor of the month. The same thing happens with the newest makes and models of vehicles.

I was quite interested when hearing of it. When Turners got them in last week, I planned rushing to get one. But after Googling for photos of it next to a Glock 26/27, I didn't even leave the house or look any further. No need. Essentially I've already got what it offers in both my Glock 26 & 27.

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[sholling]

G26 $499
http://ocfirearms.com/glock-26-9mm-subcomp-fs-10rd/

Are they actually selling them for that in their store? Or is that the price + shipping & handling to an FFL? Or to their store? Online prices are often lower than in-store prices because there is less overhead. I like OC Firearms but it's the off-the-shelf in-store purchase out the door price that I'm comparing. Note that even online there is still a $99 price difference.

How big is the shield?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvCs...e_gdata_player

This could be the silliest youtube ever . The youtuber is using pretty generic holsters and you are ignoring the actual size differences of the pistols themselves. If you look side by side the Glock 19 is substantially longer, thicker, and taller. I don't have the specs on 3rd generation glocks handy so you'll just have to go look for yourself.

[LBDamned]

Thank-You for this thread, I wanted to ask the same thing being all the fuss everyone is giving it. And it's touted in 9mm. Seems like the newest icon to soon be by-gone till the next one comes along.
Hey I get the addiction, just a few weeks ago I could not breath unless I owned a 10mm. Now I got the 29 in house and 20 in jail while I lurk Calguns for my next "gotta have it"

I guess my curiosity comes from the 9mm thing

What did you buy that was smaller than the shield?

Yeah I sort of thought it was mostly hype. Just like a "want it because we can't have it" kind of thing.
I totally understand wanting the newest and coolest CC gun though, I just don't think it's thatcool for all the hubbub that's being made about it.

It's a new fashion. Nothing more, nothing less. In a few months, it will be over

It's the flavor of the month. The same thing happens with the newest makes and models of vehicles.

why do so many people act like this is a new gun?... It's been out for a couple years.

[sholling]

why do so many people act like this is a new gun?... It's been out for a couple years.

Not in California.

[LBDamned]

Not in California.

SSE.

The CA version doesn't make it a "new gun" or a "flavor of the month"... lot's of us have had one for quite a while. It's been a popular gun since it's inception.

[MrElectric03]

You know that they handed Zimmerman back his gun after he was acquitted.

Also, who cares about getting the gun back if you actually have to use it to save your life. That's your smallest concern.

Yea that's why I got the sig in the end. I'm more comfortable with it than the shield. Just everyone I've talked to or anything I've read about ccw all says expect to not get it back. Like you Sid though, that's far back on my list if worries if I actually used it,