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  • #46
    crufflers
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2011
    • 12723

    Originally posted by Artema
    Check out Underwood. They are hotter rounds and don't overprice mediocrity.
    Will do. Any idea who has some in stock or a good place to keep checking? I'll scope out Cabela's, Gander, Graf's, and Midway.

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    • #47
      Artema
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 3821

      Originally posted by crufflers
      Will do. Any idea who has some in stock or a good place to keep checking? I'll scope out Cabela's, Gander, Graf's, and Midway.
      I don't know if they do anything but direct sales. They'll sell out in a few days and restock as soon as they can make them. Their capacity isn't high enough to do sales any other way. Their high power is consistent.

      Underwood Ammo has flat rate shipping on a wide selection of premium ammunition. Shop today for specialized self-defense and hunting ammo and more
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      Originally posted by Artema
      I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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      • #48
        crufflers
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2011
        • 12723

        Originally posted by Artema
        I don't know if they do anything but direct sales. They'll sell out in a few days and restock as soon as they can make them. Their capacity isn't high enough to do sales any other way. Their high power is consistent.

        http://www.underwoodammo.com/357sig.aspx
        Thanks! Mostly out of stock but I ordered some of this:

        Caliber: 357 Sig
        Bullet Weight: 124 Grains
        Bullet Style: Nosler Jacketed Hollow Point
        Case Type: Brass

        Ballistics Information:

        Muzzle Velocity: 1475 fps
        Muzzle Energy: 604 ft. lbs.

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        • #49
          sigstroker
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2009
          • 19820

          Originally posted by XDRoX
          I know. I just hate all the work that goes into it. I only reload straight walled pistol nowadays.
          You also have to be careful what bullets you use. The neck is very short, so if you use ordinary 9mm roundnose bullets, the neck may not have enough tension to hold the bullet securely if you seat the bullets a smidge too deep.

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          • #50
            sigstroker
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2009
            • 19820

            Originally posted by crufflers
            I have to agree. I can pick up FMJ practice rounds once in a while but have yet to score any Buffalo Bore or Critical Duty, or Gold Dot or Corbon... NOTHING.

            *I just spotted some Doubletap on Midway:
            $49 for a box of 50 rounds
            4.5" Barrel
            Muzzle Velocity: 1612 fps
            Muzzle Energy: 664 ft. lbs.

            Sounds good. Might try it.
            Wat? That velocity sounds scary. Gold Dots out of my old 229 went 1400.

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            • #51
              Deimos887
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 1673

              Originally posted by hks95134
              This caliber is best suited for country sheriffs who need to shoot through car doors on occasions. That's the whole reason it was created. As a law enforcement gun it was very popular in the past. Glocks however have taken its place.

              If you can only own one gun, this caliber is not bad for everything.

              But if you are buying it just for your collection, you might want to buy a CCW pistol first, and a carbine of some kind next, with lots of ammo for both.

              The 357 is too bulky for CCW.


              Assumedly you're referring to .357magnum, we're discussing .357sig



              developed in '94 to replicate .357 magnum loads popular with law enforcement, 125gr @ 1450fps, from a semi-auto platform. designed from a .40 case necked down to a 9mm (.355) bullet.

              Glock 31, 32 and 33's (and converted .40 cal models) are chambered for .357sig.

              sub-compact Glock 33's sport the exact external dimensions to a Glock 26.
              Last edited by Deimos887; 04-01-2014, 12:23 AM.

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              • #52
                crufflers
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2011
                • 12723

                Originally posted by Deimos887


                Assumedly you're referring to .357magnum, we're discussing .357sig



                developed in '94 to replicate .357 magnum loads popular with law enforcement, 125gr @ 1450fps, from a semi-auto platform. designed from a .40 case necked down to a 9mm (.355) bullet.

                Glock 31, 32 and 33's (and converted .40 cal models) are chambered for .357sig.

                sub-compact Glock 33's sport the exact external dimensions to a Glock 26.
                He probably was talking about .357 Mag. I do have a 5-shot that would work for CCW just fine, and there's lots of those revolvers including the LCR's.

                I appreciate the Info on Underwood. I have seen the brand in articles a lot mostly for 10mm, but for some reason couldn't figure out where to get it since I didn't see it anywhere for sale - didn't know they were such a small business. They have good stuff in 9mm+P+ and .40 too. I could have ordered a LOT more but was trying to be good.

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                • #53
                  JMP
                  Internet Warrior
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 17056

                  Originally posted by five.five-six
                  Great round in so many ways.
                  I agree. This is the 9mm for those that do not wish to sit down to pee.

                  However, I like to sit down to pee; it can be relaxing.

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                  • #54
                    jdmacl
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 770

                    I just bought .357 conversion barrels for both my Sig 226 (originally in .40) and my M&Pc (originally .40 too). I've been reloading .40 for years and will do the same for the .357.

                    Purchasing ammo fr the .357 is not that bad though. In order to get brass for reloading, I just bought #500 BVAC (great stuff!) .357 for $.30/round.

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                    • #55
                      crufflers
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 12723

                      Originally posted by jdmacl
                      I just bought .357 conversion barrels for both my Sig 226 (originally in .40) and my M&Pc (originally .40 too). I've been reloading .40 for years and will do the same for the .357.

                      Purchasing ammo fr the .357 is not that bad though. In order to get brass for reloading, I just bought #500 BVAC (great stuff!) .357 for $.30/round.
                      Most of my bulk .40 is BVAC. Where'd you get the .357 BVAC??

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                      • #56
                        crufflers
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 12723

                        Originally posted by jdmacl
                        I just bought .357 conversion barrels for both my Sig 226 (originally in .40) and my M&Pc (originally .40 too). I've been reloading .40 for years and will do the same for the .357.

                        Purchasing ammo fr the .357 is not that bad though. In order to get brass for reloading, I just bought #500 BVAC (great stuff!) .357 for $.30/round.
                        Some of the factory defense ammo is not THAT badly priced considering you can pay $30 for a box of 40 Barnes .355 TAC-XP bullets that need to be loaded (.75 each).

                        Though everything is jacked right now... 18 months ago Underwood was having $17 sales on their 50 count boxes of the good stuff.

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                        • #57
                          Artema
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 3821

                          Originally posted by crufflers
                          Some of the factory defense ammo is not THAT badly priced considering you can pay $30 for a box of 40 Barnes .355 TAC-XP bullets that need to be loaded (.75 each).

                          Though everything is jacked right now... 18 months ago Underwood was having $17 sales on their 50 count boxes of the good stuff.
                          God, I wish I had stocked up.
                          - SAAMI Pressure Specs
                          Originally posted by Artema
                          I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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                          • #58
                            trigger945
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 5795

                            $17 for Underwood... Oh man...
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                            • #59
                              TopGun551
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 38

                              Has anyone heard of EFK Fire Dragon pistol accessories? I'm thinking seriously of buying a G35 conversion to .357 SIG barrel from them and was hoping for a review or two.

                              Thanks.
                              A weapon system is not a "platform"--a platform is a raised stage whereon pro-gun control politicians stand and give inane "guns are evil" speeches trying to neuter our 2nd Amendment rights.

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                              • #60
                                gun toting monkeyboy
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 6820

                                Still haven't heard back from the OP on what he is looking for this to do. I mean it is a nice enough round, and it gives you similar performance to a .357 Mag with a 125 grain bullet. But until we get more information on what he is looking for, I can't say whether or not it would be a good round for him. It has its advantages and disadvantages as noted by many of the other posters. If all he is looking for is a centerfire handgun round for self defense or concealed carry, this may not be the best choice. It is more of a niche round. Like 10mm or .45 GAP. Great for what they do, but with enough down sides to keep them from catching on with a larger audience.

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