Glock sights question

[Trenchfoot]

I like the Trijicon HD's on my M&P the best. They feature small Tritium lamps in the rear sight that are able to be ignored in daytime to focus on the large orange front sight. At least for me, it works like a blacked out rear in the daytime, and 3 dot at night.

[briguy64]

OP, just like everything else gun related, I'm pretty sure you get that it is all a matter of personal preference. If you like the glock bucket sights or three dot set up, have at it. The sights you picked up look good to me. I prefer a blackout rear sight, and went with 10-8 rear and gold bead front that I will probably change to a fiber optic front as that is what works best for me. Also, I went with the rear steel sight so that if I hear a bump in the night I can do a tactical somersault over the side of my bed while grabbing my pistol to rack it off my night stand in one motion, I saw it on YouTube.

[CK_32]

How does a .35" bullet make a .3" group?

You obviously have no clue how to measure a shot group.


It's center to center of the two widest shots. But because it's hard to find the exact center of a shot many guys measure outside to outside and subtract by one caliber. Aka if your shooting a 308 you subtract the total group measurement by .308.


I'm surprised you wouldn't know this being you know so much on the measurements of sights and the relative distance it covers on target and are so caught up on the best sights for accuracy but don't even know how to measure a proper grouping.

[Hank15]

I will probably keep the stock glock rear sight and just mount the tritium front sight on it

Good idea, the Glock factory rear sight is a lot more serviceable than the front sight! Test fire it to make sure you like the sight picture though. Only reason I replaced my Glock sights was because I didn't like burying the front dot in the rear white outline.

Especially when I see it doing more harm than good 90% of the time seeing kids and grown men "training" at the ranges and cutting them selves pinching their skin trying to do it or have the gun pointing directly at their foot and leg trying to combat rack these stupid things because everyone's doing it all for a 1 and 1,000,000 maybe you will lose an arm in some crazy situation AND run out of ammo all at the same time.

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QFFT

Firearms "training" seems to be a growing industry and it's spreading some questionable ideologies around, particularly ones regarding equipment/skill set superiority.

This trend is analogous with the time when MMA first popularized. It was common for people who train once or twice a week at a MMA gym to claim that no other form of martial art was legitimate nor useful. Same thing happened when the Gracie family was promoting GJJ.

And it's funny, because many instructors at local matches will usually ask you to take their class and claim that everyone needs training to be proficient with a pistol. I don't necessarily disagree. However, I think it's much more important to make quick AND accurate shots than it is to learn how to rack a slide on your belt. If you claim to be an instructor and you're 30 seconds slower than me, don't take offense if I take your advice with a grain of salt.

[jay_cue]

Who needs sights anyways? I hold my gun sideways. Pew pew suckas

got the thing just for you.

[viet4lifeOC]

Take a look at the Hack sight from Ameriglo. They're $72 from Optics Planet, plus try their coupon code stptg5 for another 5% off..

Thanks for the link.

I use to buy quite a bit from optics planet, but have since stop after they over haul their web page.

For example... Their Ameriglo night sight set is a black rear with fiber optic front sight. How's that a night sight. Pictures don't help because they just use generic pictures that comes with a warning that it may not represent the item. So what are you to go by?

Love their free shipping and prices, but it's just confusing.

[Mstnpete]

Newest HD from Trijicon- Orange during day time and turns green at dark. I installed this on my G-19... Which is now the wife's newest toy. Nice and tall sights which makes it a faster target acquisition!


Next sight to be purchased will be Ameriglo Suppressor Sights for the other Glocks.

[Lead Waster]

Yeah, thats always the stuff I read "WHEN YOUR HAND GETS BLOWN OFF AND YOU CANT RACK THE SLIDE." If you have that bad of a wound where you cant rack a slide on a gun you need to either A. Treat your wounds cause id imagine you're gonna be loosing a good amount of blood. or B. Come back to reality cause thats not gonna happen haha

If someone is that worried out one handed "operations" they should get good at reloading a revolver haha

You know ... i was just thinking about what you said and ... what if you just happen to be carrying something in the other hand?

Unlikey scenario : You are somehow in a gunfight, your buddy (dammit, he was just about to retire next week!) gets shot and you are dragging him to safety while bad guys surround you. Your gun is empty or jammed! You need to rack the slide! how do you do it?
(Well, actually, come to think of it, why do you need to rack the slide with one hand if the gun is empty? How on earth did you get a new magazine in there with one hand?"

More likely scenario: You're a cop, you see a kid with what could be an AK-47, or nerf gun, whatever... You empty your gun, and you need to rack the slide BUT you are holding a jelly donut and there is no clean surface to put it down on ... WHAT DO YOU DO!

OK, just joking, but ... aside from losing that hand, what if you are actually carrying something with the other hand? What if you are holding up some riot shield, or maybe you are hanging onto something to stop yourself from falling off something? So it's not just for if your hand is blown off.

But 99% of us will never need this skill. In fact, 99% of us don't actually need to know how to shoot, but what the heck, it's a hobby right?

[CK_32]

More likely scenario: You're a cop, you see a kid with what could be an AK-47, or nerf gun, whatever... You empty your gun, and you need to rack the slide BUT you are holding a jelly donut and there is no clean surface to put it down on ... WHAT DO YOU DO!

Omg reading this and pictured the cop looking at the donut and back at his gun debating which is more important just made me bust out loud in my office.

Thank you kind sir for starting my morning with a good laugh.

[Lead Waster]

There's actually a calculation devised by Brian Enos to determine the optimum front/rear sight width combination, but since you were in the Marines for 20 years I'm sure you knew that. Just because the front sight is narrower than the rear doesn't mean it's gonna be the best for your application. Were your Beretta sights plastic, too? How would they have held up if they were? Someone could be a cop or .mil for 20 years and not shot their service pistol more than 20 times.

I don't know about the formula, but I have experienced a bad width ratio.

my RIA Tactical (yes, yes, I know. Shaddup). has a wide front sight and I can barely see any "daylight" between front sight and rear notch. I hate them as it's just a black bar and seems so imprecise. I went and bought some Dawson FO front sights that are much thinner (and as yet uninstalled).

I'll check out Brian's formula. I'm thinking of putting either warren/Sevigny or Dawson Precision or Taran Tactical sights on my jailed glock 17 for USPSA shooting. I already know I like red F/O sights.

But sorry, OP, I've digressed from your topic. Just going with the flow of conversation here.

[cabinetguy]

How does a .35" bullet make a .3" group?

Classic. Im adding it to my sig

[JMP]

For those who can't do a single hand slide rack or need "home-boy" sites to shoot horizontally, you ought to go back to the bunny slopes or step down to a gun you can handle.

[kellyhachihachi]

You know ... i was just thinking about what you said and ... what if you just happen to be carrying something in the other hand?

Unlikey scenario : You are somehow in a gunfight, your buddy (dammit, he was just about to retire next week!) gets shot and you are dragging him to safety while bad guys surround you. Your gun is empty or jammed! You need to rack the slide! how do you do it?
(Well, actually, come to think of it, why do you need to rack the slide with one hand if the gun is empty? How on earth did you get a new magazine in there with one hand?"

More likely scenario: You're a cop, you see a kid with what could be an AK-47, or nerf gun, whatever... You empty your gun, and you need to rack the slide BUT you are holding a jelly donut and there is no clean surface to put it down on ... WHAT DO YOU DO!

OK, just joking, but ... aside from losing that hand, what if you are actually carrying something with the other hand? What if you are holding up some riot shield, or maybe you are hanging onto something to stop yourself from falling off something? So it's not just for if your hand is blown off.

But 99% of us will never need this skill. In fact, 99% of us don't actually need to know how to shoot, but what the heck, it's a hobby right?

You call for a time out so they can stop the training drills and you can rack your slide

[drunktank]

OP, as far as sight picture goes, keep in mind people tend to recommend whay THEY prefer. 3 dots are great for some, while the GLOCK bracket rear is great for others.

One thing to consider - if you want night sights only on the front (as you mentioned), there may be a chance you can't line up a shot in the dark because the rear is too dark.

Just do a search for different sight pictures and you'll be able to compare via computer screen. See for yourself what YOU prefer.

[Noonanda]

There's actually a calculation devised by Brian Enos to determine the optimum front/rear sight width combination, but since you were in the Marines for 20 years I'm sure you knew that. Just because the front sight is narrower than the rear doesn't mean it's gonna be the best for your application. Were your Beretta sights plastic, too? How would they have held up if they were? Someone could be a cop or .mil for 20 years and not shot their service pistol more than 20 times.

Sorry, during my combat tours to Iraq (to include the one where I earned my PH) I never once had to "Combat Rack" my pistol, Did have to transition my rifle to my left side/ hand due to being wounded in the right arm/Broken forearm by shrapnel from an IED.

I used the pistol as it was designed, a secondary weapon to transition to when My rifle stopped working. It wouldn't have been much use "Combat rack" my Beretta using its rear sight (regardless of the fact if they were metal or plastic) to shoot at an insurgent with an AK-47 150-200 Yds away when I was able to transition with my rifle and shoot back instead.

Also since I had my pistol in condition 1 already there was no need to Rack it. So keep living in your fantasy world of What-ifs, some of us have actually been in situations and came out ok. But I guess due to the 20 Minutes you spent typing your condescending response "You knew that"

Who was it that said "the purpose of a pistol is to fight your way to a rifle", cause those are the words I lived (and live) by.

On a different note, contacted Glockmiester and they said these sight would work/fit fine on a 17. thanks for the assistance