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  • #16
    Press Check
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 4879

    Originally posted by Bongos
    BTW: all Springfield 1911 are made in Brazil, the main parts anyways.. Slide, frame, barrel and bushing.. all fitted by Master gunsmiths before shipped to the USA, then assemble in the USA with US parts.. since there are more US parts in the gun, it's classified as a USA made gun. The Master SA smiths have been making and hand fitting guns for decades.. Now, there is a SA Custom shop here in the USA and those guys are awesome but most of those guns are custom ordered. The best deal is if you have a SA and had to send it in for repair, there is no repair center at SA.. it goes to their custom shop... the repaired guns coming out of this shop is actually better than new!!!
    Huh?!

    Custom Shop pistols feature oversized frames from Imbel that are machined at the Custom Shop to National Match specifications, and the slides are hard-fit to the frame. The NM barrels are manufactured in-house, and before that, Custom Shop pistols featured Nowlin barrels, or whatever the customer specified.

    In the production pistol realm, the Made in the US declaration refers to the percentage of work completed in the US, and has nothing to do with the origin of the parts, external or internal.

    About 85% of the information you posted is incorrect.

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    • #17
      Spawn
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 619

      The Nighthawks are the best. The craftsmanship is unreal. I personally like the 1911d that come out of the S&W Performance Center too; but that's just me. Also don't be afraid to contact guys that build 1911s for a living on their own like John Jardine.

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      • #18
        Plunger9
        Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 276

        What about a Dan Wesson?
        History has proven time and time again that in a free democratic society the one thing that is NOT needed is the government deciding what IS needed. -Scott Treichler

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        • #19
          BoJackUSMC
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2010
          • 7091

          How about Glock 1911? J/k
          I have shot Ed Brown 1911 and they are one sweet 1911.

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          • #20
            ptusa
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 860

            Originally posted by Press Check
            Huh?!

            Custom Shop pistols feature oversized frames from Imbel that are machined at the Custom Shop to National Match specifications, and the slides are hard-fit to the frame. The NM barrels are manufactured in-house, and before that, Custom Shop pistols featured Nowlin barrels, or whatever the customer specified.

            In the production pistol realm, the Made in the US declaration refers to the percentage of work completed in the US, and has nothing to do with the origin of the parts, external or internal.

            About 85% of the information you posted is incorrect.
            Actually he got it about 30% right...cut the guy a break.

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            • #21
              Hank15
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 995

              My question is which high end 1911 would you choose? I dont like Springfields so please dont recommend that. Im not paying big bucks for something forged in Brazil. No offense.

              My choices are Wilson Combat, Nighthawk, Ed Brown, or Les Baer. Im not too fond of Baers finish but what the heck, I will add it to the list.
              Out of the ones you listed, I would recommend Wilson Combat for resale/collector value simply because of its name and prestige. I forgot where I read it, probably 1911 forum or louderthanwords forum, that Wilson Combats typically have the highest resale value out of semi custom/custom gun shops.

              Les Baer is the best bang for the buck, and its accuracy and performance will be on par with all the other ones you listed. It will be my next base gun for my backup .45 for CDP/SS.

              If you really want an one of a kind pistol based on its name and prestige, check http://forum.ltwguns.com/

              If you don't care as much about resale value and can compare and contrast fine workmanship, I recommend you get a decent base gun and send it off to Will O'Hara in Corona. Although I am not sure if he'll take the order since he has a backlog of about 3 years...

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              • #22
                1911Luvr
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 1824

                Originally posted by Hank15
                If you don't care as much about resale value and can compare and contrast fine workmanship, I recommend you get a decent base gun and send it off to Will O'Hara in Corona. Although I am not sure if he'll take the order since he has a backlog of about 3 years...
                He's closer to two years at the moment, but if you want a custom 1911 that's not a bad wait at all. Ask any of the LTW guys their wait time (if they are even taking new work) and see what you get. I'll put Will's work against any of them- he's that good and well worth the wait.
                I voted against Obama before it was cool.

                Originally posted by 1911Luvr
                I beg to differ. The full length dust cover rail makes a world of difference in the "when I run out of bullets I'm going to beat you to death with the pistol" look that causes bad guys to run in fear, and lesser men to feel inadequate. It looks just plain beastly and the extra heft up front does help manage recoil a bit better. Plus, an angel told me that when God called JMB to heaven it was to build him a full rail 1911!

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                • #23
                  bish0p
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 65

                  Originally posted by Uglyd
                  I have owned everything you mentioned and many more. Hands down, without question, no hesitation . . . Guncrafter Industries wins my vote. Les baer, ed brown and WC combat are excellent pistols but Guncrafter owns them all.
                  I have a Baer and Brown. I'm happy with both of them. I'm a fan of Guncrafter's Pistol With No Name.

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                  • #24
                    Intel0116
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1280

                    Im surprised no one has thrown a custom STI in the mix. at least for a "high end 1911"
                    "You cannot invade the mainland of the United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
                    -Isoroku Yamamoto, Commander-in-Chief, Imperial Japanese Navy WW2

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                    • #25
                      43Gunner
                      Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 177

                      Ed Brown

                      I don't care about his personality or the perception. Love his guns and have had no problems with the customer service.

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                      • #26
                        L84CABO
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 8751

                        I'd go with Wilson. But I might be biased there. Great product, great customer service.

                        To that end, you should look into the customer service reputation of whomever you are thinking about going with.

                        For example, if you have a problem with a Baer, Les will "probably" take care of it for you. For that kind of money, there shouldn't be any "probably" about it. But that's just me.

                        As someone else suggested, Gun Crafter is also worth a look.
                        "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

                        Fighter Pilot

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                        • #27
                          The Right to Bear Arms
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 680

                          Op: Thanks for the thread. I appreciate it. I hope somebody posts some photos of their " chosen " custom brand 1911's. That would be fun to look at. I'm up to Colt for the moment but I defer to our colleagues that actually own and run Custom brand 1911's.

                          Finally, if you ever do plan to take your future high end 1911 through a class than I definitely agree with 18DMatic's post.

                          Seems like you just appreciate the 1911 design. Most of the Gunner's on this thread will go along with that, including me. Personally, I like the design because it is a 1911. I let it be what it is and that's it.

                          They are Fun to shoot ! I hope you acquire your Custom Brand sooner than you expect and decide to share some pics with us all.

                          R
                          " A Republic, if you can keep it ..... " Benjamin Franklin

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                          • #28
                            Ray Donovan
                            Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 146

                            Originally posted by Plunger9
                            What about a Dan Wesson?
                            This.......

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                            • #29
                              LovingTheYear1911
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1925

                              Thanks for the replies guys. Really taking what youre saying into consideration. So far I am leaning towards a Wilson Combat. But a Gun Crafter seems interesting.
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                              • #30
                                ptusa
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 860

                                Originally posted by BernardKaram
                                Thanks for the replies guys. Really taking what youre saying into consideration. So far I am leaning towards a Wilson Combat. But a Gun Crafter seems interesting.
                                Always read great things about Gun Crafter...

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