Need Suggestion for Compact/Subcompact .45

[rman]

i have looked at the g30s and g36.... what im wondering is what about the safety? just a 5.5lb dao trigger with a little thingy on there? i dunno man... someone sell me on it


-Armand
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[6TSicks]

Proper holster with training and your as safe as all the rest of us

[Dee_Dub]

Lovin' my G30sf, also; have you shot one?

+1 My 30sf shoots wayyyyy better than my sig 220

[rman]

went to turners and handles. the g30sf and a usp45c...

loved the usp45c, not sure how i feel about the $999 price tag

g30sf just didn't do it for me. i know it's just me, and my comfort level with the da/sa. i still want to see a g36

but at $999 for the hk, i would likely look at another sig...


-Armand
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[rman]

just checked the roster... didn't see the ups45c on there... how does turners have it?


-Armand
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[timbo399]

Saw 3 HK USPc 9mm's at Turners Pasadena last week. Yeah new they are bit pricey, luckily I got mine barely used from a fellow calgunner for a great price and came w night sites and 5 extra mags, love that gun.

Love my G30sf also bought barely used from calgunner w night sites and 5 extra mags as well. The FS here section is your friend, you will become addicted. Haven't bought a gun at Turners in many years since finding this website, except for the SW M&P 9mm picked up last week, couldn't resist at $499 on sale. Haven't had chance to try it out yet. Love the way it feels in my hand though! Unfortunately no 5 extra mags w that purchase.

[rman]

tgs has the uspc45 for a good price/free shipping..

i was mistaken, it's actually on roster until the end of the year.

i just keel going back to the sig... as much as id like to diversify, there's something to be said about familiarity with the controls...


-Armand
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[Bad Caselaw]

...there's something to be said about familiarity with the controls...

...or the lack there of.

Suggest that you at least handle, if not shoot, a G36.

Some people don't like them. Usually because they are either used to the blockier std. Glock grips, or they can't get their mind around a SD gunfight involving less than Seven shots plus a reload or two.

Most people that have them, swear by them. And they are a good price if you can find one.




Caselaw

[rman]

my biggest hesitance is the trigger. with the sig (and h&k) the da/sa is fairly idiot proof. a looooong and heavy da pull.

with the glock, its not very long, and not very heavy.

of course, this is purely from a safety standpoint. its not like a cocked match grade 1911 with the safety off.


-Armand
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[SCAR Face]

i agree. but its an equinox


-Armand
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The P220 Carry Equinox is awesome. Looks great and shoots even better. Grips are a little thick for CCW, but I'm big for my age....

[rman]

yeah I'm leaning that way unless i can find a p245 or p220 compact


-Armand

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[k1dude]

my biggest hesitance is the trigger. with the sig (and h&k) the da/sa is fairly idiot proof. a looooong and heavy da pull.

with the glock, its not very long, and not very heavy.

of course, this is purely from a safety standpoint. its not like a cocked match grade 1911 with the safety off.

If you want a long and heavy trigger pull for safety, check out the Kahr PM45. At least it's that way with the rest of the PM series. It's just like a revolver. Even though it's striker fired, the trigger pull is long and heavy, but smooth. They did that specifically for safety.

The benefit of the stiker fired Kahr over traditional DA/SA pistols, is every trigger pull feels exactly like the previous one - unlike a DA/SA pistol. It's much better for accuracy and precision. And Kahr uses a match barrel. For such tiny weapons, they have an outstanding accuracy reputation. I can't believe how accurate and precise I am with my tiny PM9. Everyone who tries it is stunned that such accuracy can come from such a tiny package.

[rman]

looked at kahrs online... and at that price point it brings me back to sig.

at this point, if i found something at $500-600 id go for it, otherwise I'll be in the lookout for another sig


-Armand

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[Bad Caselaw]

my biggest hesitance is the trigger. with the sig (and h&k) the da/sa is fairly idiot proof. a looooong and heavy da pull.

with the glock, its not very long, and not very heavy.

of course, this is purely from a safety standpoint. its not like a cocked match grade 1911 with the safety off.

The Glock external safety.



Engage it not IF you are going to shoot... but WHEN you are going to shoot.

Otherwise...






EDIT:

The Sig 220 Compact's are nice. Looks like Sig made a G36. Same round, form-factor, Bbl. length, and capacity.

Empty Wt.
220c - 29.6 oz.
G36 - 20.11 oz.

Trigger Pull:
220c - 10 lb./4.4 lb.
G36 - ~5.5 lbs.

MSRP:
220c - $1,050.00
G36 - $637.00

Sort of...







Caselaw