What's the deal with the term "clips"?

[SilverTauron]

From Merriam-Webster's Dictionary:

Clip:

Definition of CLIP


1

: any of various devices that grip, clasp, or hook


2

: a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm


3

: a piece of jewelry held in position by a clip

Magazine:


Definition of MAGAZINE


1

: a place where goods or supplies are stored : warehouse


2

: a room in which powder and other explosives are kept in a fort or a ship


3

: the contents of a magazine: as

a : an accumulation of munitions of war

b : a stock of provisions or goods

4

a : a periodical containing miscellaneous pieces (as articles, stories, poems) and often illustrated; also : such a periodical published online

b : a similar section of a newspaper usually appearing on Sunday

c : a radio or television program presenting usually several short segments on a variety of topics

5

: a supply chamber: as

a : a holder in or on a gun for cartridges to be fed into the gun chamber

b : a lightproof chamber for films or plates on a camera or for film on a motion-picture projector

Since we've cleared that up, how about some pics of the IWI Tavor?

[bruss01]

Deephouse has it right.

Dealing with firearms is no place for a person to get sloppy... either with their gun handling, or with their terminology. If you talk "sloppy", your listeners will assume you shoot "sloppy" and your safety is "sloppy" too. It labels one as one of the ignorant masses who really doesn't care if they're using the right words. It's similar to how your opinion of someone's gun knowledge changes when you see them "wrist flick" a revolver closed, as opposed to closing it with the opposing hand - it shows that they know nothing about the item they are handling, and makes you want to step well away from them at the range.

If you hear someone use the word "clip" to refer to a magazine, the odds are pretty good that they cannot recite the four classic rules of gun safety. And if that's the case... they're not someone I want to go shooting with. Also, if they cannot be bothered to use the correct term for part of a weapon (whether due to carelessness or ignornace) then I will help them to learn but aside from that, we're not going to be having any gun-related conversations because they just don't have the knowledge to carry on a decent conversation, and if they start to ARGUE with me after doing this, then it's time to walk away because they're certain they saw it that way in a TV movie, yessir, gol durn, and that's the way it is.

It just screams "hick", "yokel" or "banger". Not "armed intelligent gun owner".

[Bad Voodoo]

From Corbin on down.... $$.

[gabe123]

I dont call my magazine "clip", just like I dont call my wife "chick". They are just not the same.

[Che762x39]

the more you know

A PSA for Calguns members. Thanks for sharing.

[Iguanadon]

I have a device to load my Ruger 22/45 magazines. It is called "The Ultimate Clip Loader." Don't know why the did not call it the "Ultimate Magazine Loader." "Clip" is just a catchy term.

[CALI SHOT DOC]

Why is this such a bad term, everytime I hear someone say clips, they get called out on it.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Cause they are 2 different things. If you are driving, lets say a mustang, and I say hey nice truck..... lol A truck isn't a car and a car isn't a truck just like a mag isn't a clip and a clip isn't a mag

[Hdawg]

Deephouse has it right.

If you hear someone use the word "clip" to refer to a magazine, the odds are pretty good that they cannot recite the four classic rules of gun safety. And if that's the case... they're not someone I want to go shooting with. Also, if they cannot be bothered to use the correct term for part of a weapon (whether due to carelessness or ignornace) then I will help them to learn but aside from that, we're not going to be having any gun-related conversations because they just don't have the knowledge to carry on a decent conversation, and if they start to ARGUE with me after doing this, then it's time to walk away because they're certain they saw it that way in a TV movie, yessir, gol durn, and that's the way it is.

It just screams "hick", "yokel" or "banger". Not "armed intelligent gun owner".

I don't normally call people out on spelling or grammar because it really just isn't that important in the scheme of things. However, when a person is critical of someone for the misuse of a word when their meaning is clear I will make an exception.

I'm not sure, but I believe the word you are looking for is ignorance (in the spirit of helping you learn, of course ).

[SilverTauron]

So, can you own a 15 round clip instead of a 10 round magazine?

[The Gleam]

I think it is important to distinguish the difference correctly, and for people to know the difference. Do I get mad if ignorant gun owners use the term clip to describe magazines? No, but I'll politiely point out the differences.

Do I get a annoyed when the anti-2nd Amendment crowd use the term "clip" - sure, and I'll point that out to them, as polite as possible, though I know they don't care because they relish ignorance; actually, they need ignorance and FUD to spread their nanny-state totalitarian agenda.

But it's not the same as calling a Yamaha R1 or R6, of a Honda CB a crotch-rocket, which is a monicker of slang for that type of bike. Now calling those dirt-bikes or Supermotards would be wrong, just as it is calling magazines clips.

If you had some form of slang for magazines such as "rock-boxes" that would actually still be OK. But a "clip" is a defined mechanical item, and a magazine is a defined mechincal item; they are not interchangeable and to do so expresses ignorance. You don't call a flat-head screwdriver a Phillips screwdriver either. Not the same.

So it does matter. But not enough to get mad about it.

[drdarrin@sbcglobal.net]

So, can you own a 15 round clip instead of a 10 round magazine?

You can own both.

IMHO, using the terms interchangeably demonstrates laziness or ignorance. Just like using the terms caliber when you really mean cartridge.

[TripleThreat]

This Thread would make "Clip of the Week" on The Soup

This thread is full of gold!


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[SoCalEnthusiast]

So basically is what I'm hearing is that it shows ignorance at the fullest level possible? And beyond?

Thanks guys for clarifying.

[Rorge Retson]

You don't call a flat-head screwdriver...

That's right, you don't. You call it a 'slotted' screwdriver.

[Dee_Dub]

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