Reloading p226 with slide locked open

[sigstroker]

Do you have any cite for that? Because the Mec-Gar branded mags I have don't look anything like the SIG mags I have.

[neb]

For many years MEC-GAR made the OEM mags for Sig for the 229/226/228/239 and for a short while the 220.

I run MEC-GAR's in ALL of my sigs except for my 220's and my 225's.
They are 100% reliable.

How old is your 226? I am beginning to wonder if your slide catch is out of spec.

I bought the gun new and I've had it for a month.

[QXSOUP]

Sig changed to Check Mate last year (or 2011)

If your mags say Made in Italy you have MEC-GAR's. If your mags say Made in USA you have check mates. If your mags have the Sauer triple S logo they are made in Germany.


I'd call Sig customer service on Tuesday. Ask to speak to Victoria and explain what is happening. Your pistol has a lifetime warranty as long as you own it.

[neb]

Sig changed to Check Mate last year (or 2011)

If your mags say Made in Italy you have MEC-GAR's. If your mags say Made in USA you have check mates. If your mags have the Sauer triple S logo they are made in Germany.


I'd call Sig customer service on Tuesday. Ask to speak to Victoria and explain what is happening. Your pistol has a lifetime warranty as long as you own it.

The magazines say, "Made in Italy", and are Mec-Gar branded. I'll give customer service a call Tuesday to see if they know anything about it. I'm going to a class tonight and I'm going to ask the instructor too.

[DanHuuN]

Could be a few things, I dont find this issue to be that much of a concern.

I always tell people to NOT utilize pressing the slide lock to bring the slide forward when locked back. Reason being is because its metal on metal contact and frankly they'll start to round off and not have a "positive" engagement. Basically you wear those areas out quicker by utilizing the slide release enough in this fashion.

Its much better to just pull the slide back and let the slide release drop and then the slide slam forward.

Also, the way the slide release works is through pressure from the follower on magazines. Meaning, when the mag no longer has ammo, the follower press up on the slide lock to lock the slide to the rear. Therefore, when you insert a loaded magazine there is no pressure on the slide release to keep it in the locked position.

It seems to me that it could be a combination of the mags you are using as well as some wear on you slide release and slide.

[penguin0123]

I always tell people to NOT utilize pressing the slide lock to bring the slide forward when locked back. Reason being is because its metal on metal contact and frankly they'll start to round off and not have a "positive" engagement. Basically you wear those areas out quicker by utilizing the slide release enough in this fashion.

Playing devil's advocate, I bet the Army taught using the slide lock/release on the 1911s. But has anyone actually seen the slide catch being worn from use? The way I see it, major advantage of using the sling shot method is that you maintain manual of arms whichever sidearm you choose, and whether it has ambi controls.

[kdruff2]

Hey Neb, As you mentioned, call Sig and keep shooting your P226. Hopefully the instructions to not slam it home (too hard) lessens or eliminates the issue. As DanHuuN mentioned, not the biggest concern, but if you are ok with it, then enjoy your gun!

[walmart_ar15]

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[sigstroker]

Playing devil's advocate, I bet the Army taught using the slide lock/release on the 1911s. But has anyone actually seen the slide catch being worn from use? The way I see it, major advantage of using the sling shot method is that you maintain manual of arms whichever sidearm you choose, and whether it has ambi controls.

Sounds kind of ridiculous to me. It would probably take a billion cycles before there was noticeable wear at that spot. I always have dropped the slide with the slide release except for some Glocks, which are too small to get leverage on. It's MUCH slower to pull the slide back, and I don't want to get into bad habits that would slow me down at the worst possible time.

[DanHuuN]

Sounds kind of ridiculous to me. It would probably take a billion cycles before there was noticeable wear at that spot. I always have dropped the slide with the slide release except for some Glocks, which are too small to get leverage on. It's MUCH slower to pull the slide back, and I don't want to get into bad habits that would slow me down at the worst possible time.

It's definitely not a common occurrence but it can and will happen. I worked at a shooting range for about 4 years and seen this happen to a few different types of guns do to their constant use by customers. Granted, changing to a new slide release will help but the wear on the slide is always there. It definitely takes a lot but I never rule it out.

Yes, habits are hard to break so definitely practice what keeps your time down for high stress situations, but when your on the range or at home just practicing dry fire, etc. it's fairly simple to remember to just sling shot it.

[jpm804]

[penguin0123]

I worked at a shooting range for about 4 years and seen this happen to a few different types of guns do to their constant use by customers.

What guns are those? Could it be the material? I assume the slide steel are made of roughly the same material across brands (discounting stainless), so maybe it has something to do with the material of the slide release?

[DanHuuN]

What guns are those? Could it be the material? I assume the slide steel are made of roughly the same material across brands (discounting stainless), so maybe it has something to do with the material of the slide release?

It's really a combination of abuse from being rented. I won't drop any manufacture names because a big factor was the maintenance or lack thereof that the guns received. Some guns could see 10000 rounds before receiving a cleaning, etc.

So overall there's a lot of factors involved for this type of wear. But I'm a firm believer in minimizing wear as much as possible when it can be avoided and doesn't affect "second nature"

[Eric B]

My Glocks be Sig will slide home if I slam a magazine in. Hell, I prefer it that way. After all, I want that gun ready to shoot if I'm doing a mag change, right?

[FourLoko]

It's not a "feature". You are using too much force to put the mag in period. That force is being transferred to the slide stop releasing the slide.

But what do I know, I only own 14 Sigs and have been shooting them for almost 18 years now...

cool story bro, I shoot Glocks and don't baby them

Nothing wrong with being aggressive on the reload. I'm guessing you've never taking an actual course. If you had I'm sure you would have watched magazines drop out of pistols from "weak" mag reloading.