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  • #16
    neb
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 91

    Originally posted by QXSOUP
    It's not a "feature". You are using too much force to put the mag in period. That force is being transferred to the slide stop releasing the slide.

    But what do I know, I only own 14 Sigs and have been shooting them for almost 18 years now...
    Couldn't you use this technique to greatly improve your reload times? Is this a bad idea because it is damaging my gun?

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    • #17
      QXSOUP
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 989

      I guess if you needed to reload super fast. Just don't make it a habit. You will round off the corner of the slide where the slide catch "catches" if you only reload that way.
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      • #18
        neb
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 91

        Originally posted by QXSOUP
        I guess if you needed to reload super fast. Just don't make it a habit. You will round off the corner of the slide where the slide catch "catches" if you only reload that way.
        Gotcha, so I always should yank on the slide. I shouldn't use the slide release either for the same reason right?

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        • #19
          QXSOUP
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 989

          right.
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          • #20
            mjmagee67
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 2771

            Sounds like a normal functioning gun! I've had Glocks do it, I've have 1911 do it, and I've had Sigs do it. It happens less often just shooting at the range, but it regularly happens during competitions. But I do slam the mag home to verify it's seated.
            If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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            • #21
              kdruff2
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1218

              I've also heard that if you hammer in your mag, you could accidentally push several rounds into the chamber area. Although it's tight in there, you may increase the chance of a misfire or something worse off.

              Personally, I view it as, you are the master of your firearm. You should be in control of it, and know its operations at all times. If I don't want to chamber a round, the gun shouldn't chamber it for me. There should be no variable in the way the gun is behaving mechanically. Otherwise, I would view this as me not having complete control of my gun.

              Insert the mag assertively but don't need to go Hollywood on it.

              Btw - I shoot a P229 EE 9mm and that's not ever happened (not to say it couldn't happen)
              Last edited by kdruff2; 05-25-2013, 6:20 PM.

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              • #22
                kdruff2
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 1218

                Addendum - Admittedly, when shooting in matches, and I find myself out of ammo and the slide locked back, I do goto to the slide release for speed.

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                • #23
                  neb
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 91

                  Originally posted by kdruff2
                  I've also heard that if you hammer in your mag, you could accidentally push several rounds into the chamber area. Although it's tight in there, you may increase the chance of a misfire or something worse off.

                  Personally, I view it as, you are the master of your firearm. You should be in control of it, and know its operations at all times. If I don't want to chamber a round, the gun shouldn't chamber it for me. There should be no variable in the way the gun is behaving mechanically. Otherwise, I would view this as me not having complete control of my gun.

                  Insert the mag assertively but don't need to go Hollywood on it.

                  Btw - I shoot a P229 EE 9mm and that's not ever happened (not to say it couldn't happen)
                  I am in control of it now. It never happened with the factory sig magazines. I actually just tried to get it to close by slamming my factory mags into it and it wont close.

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                  • #24
                    penguin0123
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 3089

                    Originally posted by neb
                    I am in control of it now. It never happened with the factory sig magazines. I actually just tried to get it to close by slamming my factory mags into it and it wont close.
                    Ah ha! There is the culprit. Who made the aftermarket mags? Take some measurements of the mag lip area (when loaded) and compare to the Sig mags.

                    I agree with previous posters that there is no need to falcon punch your mags. A firm push when inserting is all that would be needed.

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                    • #25
                      StrikeIndustries
                      Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 159

                      This is a feature of some firearms. The Smith and Wesson M&P's have this ability as well as some other ones I can't think of off the top of my head. You have to insert the magazine firmly at about a 45 degree angle into the firearm.

                      If you watch the Magpul Dynamics Pistol DVD, they discuss using this feature to your advantage if you can do it consistently.

                      So depending on the firearm, this may actually be a part of the design.

                      In my experience, this has happened with nearly every gun I have shot such as Beretta M9's, Glock's, Sig's, 1911's, Smith and Wesson's, Ruger SR's, and some others I'm forgetting. That doesn't mean it's a feature of these pistols though. I think for some of them, it has more to do with the inertia of the slide moving back just enough during a firm reload and the slide stop moving out of the way on a more used, worn in gun.

                      EDIT: Here is a video of one of our employee shooting and it happening to his Kimber Custom II @0:25
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                      • #26
                        neb
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 91

                        Originally posted by penguin0123
                        Ah ha! There is the culprit. Who made the aftermarket mags? Take some measurements of the mag lip area (when loaded) and compare to the Sig mags.

                        I agree with previous posters that there is no need to falcon punch your mags. A firm push when inserting is all that would be needed.
                        They are Mec-Gar.

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                        • #27
                          kdruff2
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1218

                          Mec-gar are GTG.

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                          • #28
                            neb
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 91

                            Originally posted by kdruff2
                            Mec-gar are GTG.
                            Good to go? or got to go?

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                            • #29
                              penguin0123
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 3089

                              Mec-Gar are good stuff. There have even been rumours that factory Sig mags are made by them.

                              Pro-Mag:
                              Please
                              Remember
                              Our
                              Magazines
                              Are
                              Garbage

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                              • #30
                                QXSOUP
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 989

                                For many years MEC-GAR made the OEM mags for Sig for the 229/226/228/239 and for a short while the 220.

                                I run MEC-GAR's in ALL of my sigs except for my 220's and my 225's.
                                They are 100% reliable.

                                How old is your 226? I am beginning to wonder if your slide catch is out of spec.
                                WTB: Sig P245 or P220 Compact

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