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  • uechikid
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1409

    9mm +P ammo

    I mistakenly picked up a couple of boxes of Hornady 9mm Critical Duty ammo thinking it was the same as their Critical Defense and realized it's +P. I have an M&P 40c with a factory 9mm barrel. I read the manual and it doesn't say you can't shoot +P but they imply that it's not good for the gun. Any one shoot +P in their M&P?
    "Carpe Diem"
  • #2
    Ronin2
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 5563

    If you carry it as self defense ammo, shooting only enough in the gun to confirm absolute reliability and determine accuracy you are fine. I would not shoot a regular diet of +P ammo in the gun for target shooting/training. I have no doubt the S&W M&P will have no problem with the ammo. A shooting bud is mine is a Lt. with the LA county sheriff's department told me that the M&P is the departments new standard issue gun. Critical Duty ammo will be right at home in the M&P.
    Last edited by Ronin2; 05-22-2013, 12:24 AM.

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    • #3
      RonnieP
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 2750

      Buy a Hi-Point C9 and enjoy being able to shoot +P ammo.
      Trump 2016

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      • #4
        uechikid
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 1409

        Originally posted by RonnieP
        Buy a Hi-Point C9 and enjoy being able to shoot +P ammo.
        Thanks, but not looking to buy a different gun and not really interested in +P ammo. Just didn't look close enough when I bought this stuff and want to make sure it's safe to shoot with the gun I have.
        "Carpe Diem"

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        • #5
          Napalm Bulldog
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 4266

          Smiths M&P Safety & instruction manual on page 11 states ( 'Plus-P" ammunition generates pressures in excess of the pressures associated with standard ammunition. Such pressures may affect wear characteristics or exceed the margin of safety. Use of "Plus-P" ammunition may result in the need for more frequent service.

          "Plus-p-Plus"(+P+) must not be used in Smith & Wesson firearms. This marking on the ammunition designates that it exceeds established industry standards, but the designation does not represent defined pressure limits and therefore such ammunition may vary significantly as to the pressures generated and could be DANGEROUS.


          Just says it may wear the pistol faster

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          • #6
            Ronin2
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 5563

            Originally posted by RonnieP
            Buy a Hi-Point C9 and enjoy being able to shoot +P ammo.
            ROFL.. and heck if you run out of ammo mid-gunfight...you can just beat someone to death with it.

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            • #7
              safewaysecurity
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2010
              • 6166

              Well no one should ever suggest you shoot something that your manual suggests you not to shoot for liability reasons. I am not an expert and read this at your own risk and take from this what you may but M&P are "military and police" guns. Generally designed to shoot self defense pistol ammo. Self defense pistol ammo manufacturers generally like to produce +P self defense ammo. You do the math. I'm not going to say it's safe but let's just say that people wouldn't be buying +p ammo to defend their life with if it was breaking their guns or making it unreliable. I personally would prefer +p self defense ammo and that's the reason I only have +p self defense ammo.
              Originally posted by cudakidd
              I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
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              • #8
                morrcarr67
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 15018

                Originally posted by Ronin2
                ROFL.. and heck if you run out of ammo mid-gunfight...you can just beat someone to death with it.
                Might not even have to do that.

                Just show it to them and they might be "Scared to Death" by its looks.


                BTW: I'm not a Hi Point hater I just think they're ugly.
                Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                Originally posted by Erion929

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                • #9
                  Ronin2
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 5563

                  Originally posted by morrcarr67
                  Might not even have to do that.

                  Just show it to them and they might be "Scared to Death" by its looks.
                  They are "FUGLY" enough to kill ya....



                  Originally posted by morrcarr67
                  BTW: I'm not a Hi Point hater I just think they're ugly.
                  I suppose I dont hate them, but I HAVE NO RESPECT for them and by extension, anyone who would promote them...just saying.

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                  • #10
                    Ronin2
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 5563

                    Originally posted by uechikid
                    I mistakenly picked up a couple of boxes of Hornady 9mm Critical Duty ammo thinking it was the same as their Critical Defense and realized it's +P. I have an M&P 40c with a factory 9mm barrel. I read the manual and it doesn't say you can't shoot +P but they imply that it's not good for the gun. Any one shoot +P in their M&P?
                    What bullet weight? Want to sell it or trade for some Federal HST non +P? I my SiG's and Browning HP's eat that stuff up...

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                    • #11
                      drunktank
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 5461

                      Just shoot it or return it. I know plenty of cops and other folks that shoot +p in their M&P's all day long. They're firearms, not toys. You are fine.

                      WTB used AK MFER.

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                      • #12
                        BrassCase
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 3185

                        Send it to me, I'll run it through my Sig and tell you how it worked.

                        Seroiusly it shouldn't hurt to run 50 rounds through your M&P. I think almost every pistol owners manual has a note about +p. I have a box of Winchester Ranger FMJ NATO that I'm told is the equal to +p and I have a box of the Hornady +p same as you. My Sig 226 is OK with +p and the M&P shouldn't have a problem either. I'm sure you can find somebody that would be happy to make a straight across trade withstandard 9mm ammo for your +p, I would if I were in SoCal.

                        BTW the +p brings a 9mm up to the level S&W 40 for stopping power.
                        I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
                        NRA Certified:

                        Chief Range Safety Officer
                        Instructor: Basic Pistol Shooting
                        Instructor: Personal Protection Inside the Home

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                        • #13
                          uechikid
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1409

                          Originally posted by BrassCase
                          Send it to me, I'll run it through my Sig and tell you how it worked.

                          Seroiusly it shouldn't hurt to run 50 rounds through your M&P. I think almost every pistol owners manual has a note about +p. I have a box of Winchester Ranger FMJ NATO that I'm told is the equal to +p and I have a box of the Hornady +p same as you. My Sig 226 is OK with +p and the M&P shouldn't have a problem either. I'm sure you can find somebody that would be happy to make a straight across trade withstandard 9mm ammo for your +p, I would if I were in SoCal.

                          BTW the +p brings a 9mm up to the level S&W 40 for stopping power.
                          I'm not in SoCal, I'm in Antioch.
                          "Carpe Diem"

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                          • #14
                            SoCalEnthusiast
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 1734

                            What does +P ammo entail? Extra oooomph?

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                            • #15
                              kielbasavw
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1611

                              If you have to second guess your gun with real ammo..... then its time to buy a HK

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