how does a da/sa pistol work w/o a decocker?

[teflondog]

Decock the same way as a revolver. Just make sure to point the gun in a safe direction.

[Roland Deschain]

Never used a revolver?

Obviously not familiar with the hammer on all semi-autos but the hammer on my GP-100 seems much more suited to being manually let down than say the hammer on my M9A1.

De-cockers have and do fail resulting in a nd and too many shooters are lax in being as safe as possible when decocking.
Be very careful using a decocker a CZ52...

Not familiar with the CZ52 but on my M9A1 the firing pin is rotated out of the way before the decocking occurs so I don't see that failing. At the same time it doesn't keep me from keeping the gun pointed in a safe direction (which it should be at all times regardless of what you are doing with it)

[tbc]

Just get yourself an HK or a Sig and you ate good to go.


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[paul0660]

Yes you ate, everyone knows that.

[tbc]

Yes you ate, everyone knows that.

^^^^ LOL.


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[SilverTauron]

I've owned only sa 1911s, now I'm getting a cz. The cz is da/sa, but only has a safety. So how would I transition between sa and da? I read that the first shot is da, but from videos the hammer is cocked on the first rnd.

You'd have to lower the hammer manually,a practice the late great Jeff Cooper disagreed with regarding the 1911-and I share his stance.I'm shamed to say this is a lesson I learned the hard way with a 1980s vintage Taurus PT99.Like the CZ ,it features a da/sa action and my older pistol didn't have the decockers new ones have.I carried it C&L without trouble until I was about to purchase a 92FS,so I wanted go get used to the DA first pull.I lowered the hammer just a touch to quick and a loud bang immediately followed.

If you manually decock a SA gun,you'll notice minute dents in the loaded rounds primer from the "gentle" impact of the FP.

Treat the CZ75 and other SA non decocker guns like the 1911,and sin no more.

[omnitravis]

This is true, Roland. Great series, btw.
The hammer on my 92fs has a bit less room to play with, but it is still very manageable if you are careful. Now, with sweaty/bloody hands in a time of action, I am not sure I would want to be doing this.

[paul0660]

Treat the CZ75 and other SA non decocker guns like the 1911,and sin no more.

But, the CZ only goes to "half cock" and has a firing pin block. Nice design. Still, be careful.

[rsmorgan]

Safest way to decock an automatic is to use two hands. One hand to pull the trigger and control the hammer. The other hand to put your thumb "at hazard" to stop the hammer if your thumb slips off as you decock.

Another approach, which comes out of the Soviet manual of arms for the Tokarev and works with most guns, is to press your support hand thumb against the side or front of the hammer. If your firing hand thumb slips off the hammer that will slow the hammer down and prevent it from delivering a hard enough blow to the firing pin to fire the round in the chamber.

Practice with an empty gun and it soon becomes just part of day-to-day gun handling and not something that seems inordinately risky.

[paul0660]

Just do it my way. Post 14.

I may break into youtube just to show how, but it is drop dead slack jaw SIMPLE. And a lot more elegant than that long throw thing Sigs have.

[Mossy Man]

This is why i like glocks

[limitdown]

One handed decocking is not the safest way. For a righty, grip the hammer firmly between your LEFT thumb and index finger. Pull the trigger with your right hand. Slowly lower the hammer.
I've done this probably more than a thousand times practicing for USPSA competition with my SP01 Shadow.

[bigcalidave]

Decocker?? Thumb?
I go with the (depending on gun) left thumb blocking hammer, right thumb on hammer, pull trigger and release hammer, release trigger to bring up firing pin block in some guns, lower hammer completely.

[negolien]

LOL

No kidding. People have been lowering hammers on live rounds for well over a hundred years now.

Ummm no... Sorry I don't carry a non safety equiped revolver cocked Maybe the movies you watch have alot of people doing it but...I would be fairly comfortable with a decocker but would still observe safety guidlines as far as keeping it aimed away from people and such.

[ptgarcia]

Ummm no... Sorry I don't carry a non safety equiped revolver cocked Maybe the movies you watch have alot of people doing it but...I would be fairly comfortable with a decocker but would still observe safety guidlines as far as keeping it aimed away from people and such.

Umm, yes. And who said anything about carrying a revolver cocked?