Glock trigger mod question

[Slugz]

I have heard about a 50/50 mix on whether or not a person should swap out the connector on their Glock for a 3.5lb version for defensive as well as target use. Some swear that's the only way you should use them to be accurate and others seem to feel so strongly against it one would think the pistol is going to spontaneously detonate in the operators hands if he's aiming at anything other than paper...

I have read all sorts of info against this kind of mod, but with no actual "reason" why to stay away from it. The safe action trigger means its not going to be any easier to discharge in the event of A fall, and if you have your finger on the trigger you should be prepared to pull it anyways, so why the fear?

Speaking for myself, I dislike the heavy pull of the Glock trigger. Seems to hinder my ability to maintain target alignment at the range and i assume this would amplify in a defense scenario. Anyone have any heavy experience in this area?

[Bug Splat]

The stock 5lbs trigger can be just as accurate. I still rock the 5lbs trigger and I can put all 17rds into one hole at 10 yards with my G17. I have thought about swapping it out to a 3.5 but I really have no reason to. If you think the trigger is heavy then get the 3.5. I have shot many glocks with the 3.5 trigger and it was not some super light scary trigger. Its still a glock, not a 1911. It still takes some pulling to have it fire.

[Blademan21]

[Sofatactical]

I have heard about a 50/50 mix on whether or not a person should swap out the connector on their Glock for a 3.5lb version for defensive as well as target use. Some swear that's the only way you should use them to be accurate and others seem to feel so strongly against it one would think the pistol is going to spontaneously detonate in the operators hands if he's aiming at anything other than paper...

I have read all sorts of info against this kind of mod, but with no actual "reason" why to stay away from it. The safe action trigger means its not going to be any easier to discharge in the event of A fall, and if you have your finger on the trigger you should be prepared to pull it anyways, so why the fear?

Speaking for myself, I dislike the heavy pull of the Glock trigger. Seems to hinder my ability to maintain target alignment at the range and i assume this would amplify in a defense scenario. Anyone have any heavy experience in this area?

The reason you never hear a reason is there is no reason.
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Use what you prefer.

[SDM44]

I've used the 3.5lb trigger before, but don't anymore.

Realistically, it gives you a 4.5lb pull and the newer Glock triggers feel much smoother than they did a few years ago. The 5.5lb triggers are good for me now.


BTW, I've had a few "double taps" happen on more than 1 occasion when using the Ghost 3.5lb trigger bar on a Glock 19. Wasn't done intentionally either.

[Gryff]

The safe action trigger means its not going to be any easier to discharge in the event of A fall, and if you have your finger on the trigger you should be prepared to pull it anyways, so why the fear?

It's like the argument about shot placement. Unless you are a trained spec ops type, you aren't going to know what exactly your body is going to do when you life is on the line until the moment arrives. It's amazing how things that seem so simple can change once an extreme stress response kicks in.

With a heavier trigger pull, there is more margin for error should you touch the trigger before you are indexing on the target.

For my defense gun, I like smooth but heavy-ish. I polish up the internals, but I don't lighten the pull. But you need to decide what is right for you, and what you think you can or can't do when it comes time to defend yourself.

[Slugz]

Some interesting information. Never heard of double taps occurring from the swap. That would be pretty scary if unintentional.

@Gryff, what is your process for polishing up the trigger components and which ones do you polish?

[HighLander51]

Glock triggers are crap compared to a good 1911, but if you pull it 50,000 times it will seem normal. the 3.5lb connector helps a little, but not much. The best trigger in a Glock that I ever owned was a G21 with the stock 5lb connector. Nice trigger but the gun wasn't worth crap, sheared the barrel lug off at about 125,000 rounds.

[Slugz]

My Glock is a G21.... (-_-) lol but that is a lot of rounds for any gun. Though, starting the barrel lug off seems kind of "isolated" don't you think? I've never even heard of that happening on any gun, much less a Glock. Any pics? What exactly happened? Did you oil the gun regularly? Perhaps you just got a lemon? I'm very curious for obvious reasons.

[Bug Splat]

My Glock is a G21.... (-_-) lol but that is a lot of rounds for any gun. Though, starting the barrel lug off seems kind of "isolated" don't you think? I've never even heard of that happening on any gun, much less a Glock. Any pics? What exactly happened? Did you oil the gun regularly? Perhaps you just got a lemon? I'm very curious for obvious reasons.

I think he was being sarcastic. I'd expect anything to happen with 125,000 rounds through it.

[Slugz]

Oh ok lol well shame on him =P i hear about failures and tend to take what i hear seriously lol but of what i hear, even 200k isn't all that much for a Glock. Springs, mags, pins maybe? But unless abused i can't see why it would fail at any point outside if its moving parts. Id expect the barrel rifling to wrest down before a sheared lug lol

[tbc]

Try (-) connector for gen 3 or (.) connector for gen 4. These connectors are from Glock. You can call them and b!tch about it if they don't work.

EDIT: The (-) connector works great on my Glock 17.


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[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

I've swapped all of my Glock connectors out for the "minus" Glock part. I just prefer to have approximately the same trigger weight no matter which Glock I have in my hand at the time. I haven't used the Ghost connector but have seen reports of issues with Ghost connectors involving the adjustability of the Ghost part (example linked) which may be the source of the issue reported by SDM44 earlier in this thread. That doesn't make it a bad choice, it's just something to keep in mind.

OP, there's no reason why you shouldn't switch yours out if it helps you shoot better; the factory "minus" connector doesn't require adjustment and is a drop in part.

[Slugz]

Thank you guys. I think i will look into that "-" Part you have recommended. I definitely wasn't looking for a part that wasn't drop-in and would prefer to keep the gun as OEM as possible when it comes to the things that make it work.

[Lead Waster]

It's like the argument about shot placement. Unless you are a trained spec ops type, you aren't going to know what exactly your body is going to do when you life is on the line until the moment arrives. It's amazing how things that seem so simple can change once an extreme stress response kicks in.

With a heavier trigger pull, there is more margin for error should you touch the trigger before you are indexing on the target.

For my defense gun, I like smooth but heavy-ish. I polish up the internals, but I don't lighten the pull. But you need to decide what is right for you, and what you think you can or can't do when it comes time to defend yourself.

True that you don't know how you will react. Shooting some "action pistol" matches can help with that as you are shooting with your heart pumping, but it's still not a life and death situation.

IMHO, it doesn't really matter if you can get yourself to keep your finger OFF the trigger until you really mean it. If some bad guy is advancing on you, it doesn't matter about the trigger pull because if you are pointing it at someone, you mean to shoot him (according to safe gun handling rules!).

If you think that lawyers or cops will give you trouble for it, the correct response is never "I didn't mean to shoot him, the trigger was too light" the correct answer is "I meant to shoot him of course. The trigger made it easier for me to hit him instead of someone else". The issue is not the hardware, the issue is always intent. If you shot someone in self defense, it's because you meant to.