Glock vs Browning

[Paradiddle]

That would make more sense if the Glock wasn't essentially a 1910 (designed by Browning before either the 1911 or the High Power) with some polymer and a fancy trigger.

Uh oh.....don't pollute this thread with facts.....especially about "old guns" and "antiquated designs"

[67goat]

Uh oh.....don't pollute this thread with facts.....especially about "old guns" and "antiquated designs"

What was I thinking?

[Beachdogger]

Glock, stock and barrel

Glock 23, never fails, warm and comfy in the hand in all weather. But for PPD, nuthin's says "get lost" like rackin' your 12 gauge.

[jdben92883]

Both are good guns. I like the simplicity of the Glock, so that's what I run for my defense guns. Point-and-click is useful in high-stress situations.

[diverwcw]

Glock!

[Raider888]

Glock!

[watersports500]

Browning

[Blue Ridge Reef]

Browning!


and wash, rinse, repeat. I think that part somewhere early on page one about "Both are great guns, get the one you like better" might be the only advice in the thread.

[triple-tap]

That's just cruel. Can't believe you'd make the last thing that poor guy got to see be a Glock.

Talk about cruel. This golden FN Hi-Power could be more cruel. If under 18 don't look at pics-video of what they did to his backside.

http://forums.1911forum.com/showpost.php?p=3497801&postcount=11

http://boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/RTR2SX8V.jpg

Brownings were designed by a gunsmith for well trained soldiers in actual combat situations in response to the request by a military that was very familiar with war.

Glocks were designed by a polymer engineer for the unwashed masses that were too lazy be bothered with cleaning their equipment or learning how to aim properly in response to the request of a military that hasn't seen much combat since the HiPower was being developed.

Which type of person are you?

The MK-III is beautiful, but I wouldn't purely judge the quality of a piece by nationalist fervor.

With due respect. To me, somehow Belgian military fervor doesn't come on as something more strong over Austria. Not even close. On the Allied side, they surrendered to the Axis pretty quick as dismal failures and are pretty much a laughing stock, in my view. The HI-Power was made for a military that was quick to surrender. Is this a testament to its quality. No.

For some reason. The Belgians as turncoats fought more "heroically" as volunteers for the SS etc on the Axis side and it is for this they are often remembered as fighters.

I probably can't afford a MK-III, but I'm hoping to afford an Austrian Glock at $499 or less. Made by an Austrian with no firearms manufacturing experience, other than making shovels, etc., but with a long standing national military history, better than that of Belgium.

[67goat]

Not sure what the Belgians or the Axis have to do with anything. The High Power was designed in response to specifications requested by the French coming out out WWI. Th Axis wasn't even formed until 1936 (10 years after Browning died in 1926, 22 years after the design was started in 1914, and a year after the High Power design was finalized in 1935).

[triple-tap]

67goat

The Axis (Austrians etc.) and Allies (Belgians, French) have everything to do with your comments, since you were the first one to bring this up in an attempt to make an argument.

If you read the quoted text of your responses. You, in an attempt to promote the FN over the Glock, ridiculed the Austrians (Central Powers, Axis etc.) and promoted Belgians (Allies etc).

You however neglected to point out that most of the Belgian (and French for that matter) military experience or familiarity with "war," was against largely defenseless naked tribal peoples, who were invaded, robbed, raped and pillaged by the Belgians French (Allies) with their sophisticated weaponry. When faced by European countries (Germany Austria etc,) "very familiar with war," we all know how Belgians and French faired and what their alleged experiences are worth.

Axis (Germany Austria etc.WWII) or Central Powers (Germany Austria etc.WWI) and whatever else you call them, are virtually identical, addressing the same matter and problems, that as of today are still not resolved. For your convenience, you can put your head in the sand, by breaking it into dates of your parroted grade school WWI, WWII, etc., but others like me view this as one matter.

[451040]

What would you trust with your life?

Glock

[67goat]

67goat

The Axis (Austrians etc.) and Allies (Belgians, French) have everything to do with your comments, since you were the first one to bring this up in an attempt to make an argument.

If you read the quoted text of your responses. You, in an attempt to promote the FN over the Glock, ridiculed the Austrians (Central Powers, Axis etc.) and promoted Belgians (Allies etc).

You however neglected to point out that most of the Belgian (and French for that matter) military experience or familiarity with "war," was against largely defenseless naked tribal peoples, who were invaded, robbed, raped and pillaged by the Belgians French (Allies) with their sophisticated weaponry. When faced by European countries (Germany Austria etc,) "very familiar with war," we all know how Belgians and French faired and what their alleged experiences are worth.

Axis (Germany Austria etc.WWII) or Central Powers (Germany Austria etc.WWI) and whatever else you call them, are virtually identical, addressing the same matter and problems, that as of today are still not resolved. For your convenience, you can put your head in the sand, by breaking it into dates of your parroted grade school WWI, WWII, etc., but others like me view this as one matter.

I did not ridicule anybody, nor did I promote the Belgians. The Belgians had nothing to do with my statement at all. I simply compared the military experience of the 1920s French army (that was serving on the front lines during WWI, again before there was any such thing as the Axis) to the 1980s Austrian army (25 years after the country constitutionally declared neutrality and hadn't seen any significant action for decades).

I'm pretty sure the German, Austrian, and Italian army that invaded France was not filled with aboriginals. And while the 1,000,000 man army of the Central Powers did push the 200,000 man French army back in the Battle of Verdun, the French did more than hold their own at the Battle of Guise and the First Battle of the Marne.

You can confuse your history all you want. But the fact is that the Belgians are not the French. The High Power was designed to the specifications of the French army during times of war. The Glock was designed to Austrian army specifications after decades of neutrality.

[Paradiddle]

I did not ridicule anybody, nor did I promote the Belgians. The Belgians had nothing to do with my statement at all. I simply compared the military experience of the 1920s French army (that was serving on the front lines during WWI, again before there was any such thing as the Axis) to the 1980s Austrian army (25 years after the country constitutionally declared neutrality and hadn't seen any significant action for decades).

I'm pretty sure the German, Austrian, and Italian army that invaded France was not filled with aboriginals. And while the 1,000,000 man army of the Central Powers did push the 200,000 man French army back in the Battle of Verdun, the French did more than hold their own at the Battle of Guise and the First Battle of the Marne.

You can confuse your history all you want. But the fact is that the Belgians are not the French. The High Power was designed to the specifications of the French army during times of war. The Glock was designed to Austrian army specifications after decades of neutrality.

I find it funny that the Glock koolaid drinkers can only discuss Axis and Allies and no one has made a comment to your statement of the "original" striker pistol (and what could be called a "Glock prototype" - a very "old" and "tired" design....by a guy named Browning....who then revised the design into the 1911....who then revised THAT design in the HP.....

Whatever.....people will always defend what they buy or read - very few have shot enough of the popular 9mms enough to make an informed judgement and/or choice. They buy what they can afford and then go on the web pounding their chest as to why it's the "best".

[elSquid]

I find it funny that the Glock koolaid drinkers can only discuss Axis and Allies and no one has made a comment to your statement of the "original" striker pistol (and what could be called a "Glock prototype" - a very "old" and "tired" design....by a guy named Browning....who then revised the design into the 1911....who then revised THAT design in the HP....

The really funny thing in all of this is that the gun JMB actually designed - that eventually morphed into the HP we know today - was a 15 shot, striker-fired 9mm.



It's in the patent ---> http://www.google.com/patents/US1618510

JMB built Glocks before Glocks were cool.

-- Michael