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  • NRai2001
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    • Mar 2012
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    .22 pistol??

    Are there any high cap .22 pistols? I know there is the PMR 30 but those are like impossible to find.. Anyothers?
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  • #2
    Oceanbob
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    • Jun 2010
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    Originally posted by NRai2001
    Are there any high cap .22 pistols? I know there is the PMR 30 but those are like impossible to find.. Anyothers?
    Not really. Average mag is 10 rounds. My old Ruger from the 1970s is 12 rounds. While the PMR 30 is interesting you can't run the 30 round mags here in Kalifornistan. Almost like the FN 5.7, a neat pistol but only 10 round mags kind of ruins the attraction for me.

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    • #3
      morrcarr67
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      • Jul 2010
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      What about that new one that takes 10/22 magazines?

      If you live in a free state and have 50 round magazines it could be fun.


      EDIT

      Here's the Zip Factory 22

      Last edited by morrcarr67; 03-22-2013, 12:06 PM.
      Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

      Originally posted by Erion929

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      • #4
        Furncliff
        Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 430

        There is a mod to the GSG 1911-22 magazines that bumps them from 10- to 14.

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        • #5
          mcat707
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2346

          Or you can just use an AR pistol with with hi-cap 22lr mags. I personally like the look of them with no buffer tube and shorten barrel.

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          • #6
            Oldnoob
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            • Apr 2008
            • 2829

            S&W 41, 422, 622 and 2206 (all take the same mag) has a 12rd mag.
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            • #7
              morrcarr67
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              • Jul 2010
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              Originally posted by mcat707
              Or you can just use an AR pistol with with hi-cap 22lr mags. I personally like the look of them with no buffer tube and shorten barrel.
              No you can't. You can't in CA.

              An AR style pistol needs a magazine lock of some kind for it to be legal in CA. If a gun has a magazine lock it can only have a 10 round or less magazine in it.
              Last edited by morrcarr67; 03-22-2013, 3:17 PM.
              Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

              Originally posted by Erion929

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              • #8
                hossb7
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                • Jul 2006
                • 3285

                Originally posted by morrcarr67
                No you can't.

                An AR style pistol needs a magazine lock of some kind for it to be legal in CA. If a gun has a magazine lock it can only have a 10 round or less magazine in it.
                Rimfire weapons don't fall under SB23. Don't need a maglock.
                We in Bangor, Maine now baby.

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                • #9
                  Decoligny
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 10615

                  Originally posted by hossb7
                  Rimfire weapons don't fall under SB23. Don't need a maglock.
                  No, rimfire rifles don't fall under SB23. You will notice under (4) and (5) that it specifically lacks the word "centerfire". That means that rimfire pistols are also included.

                  However, PC 30515 states:

                  30515. (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, "assault weapon" also means any of the following:

                  (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
                  ...(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
                  ...(B) A thumbhole stock.
                  ...(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
                  ...(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
                  ...(E) A flash suppressor.
                  ...(F) A forward pistol grip.

                  (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

                  (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

                  (4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
                  ...(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
                  ...(B) A second handgrip.
                  ...(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer's hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
                  ...(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

                  (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.


                  So, an AR .22LR Pistol will either be able to accept a detachable magazine and have a magazine that attaches at some location outside the pistol grip, which would make it an assault weapon, (4)(D)

                  OR

                  an AR .22LR Pistol will have a fixed magazine (via Bullet Button) in which case is cannot have a magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 round without it also being an assault weapon. (5)
                  Last edited by Decoligny; 03-22-2013, 12:29 PM.
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                  • #10
                    hossb7
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                    • Jul 2006
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                    Originally posted by Decoligny
                    However, PC 30515 states:

                    30515. (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, "assault weapon" also means any of the following:

                    (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
                    ...(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
                    ...(B) A thumbhole stock.
                    ...(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
                    ...(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
                    ...(E) A flash suppressor.
                    ...(F) A forward pistol grip.

                    (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

                    (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

                    (4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
                    ...(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
                    ...(B) A second handgrip.
                    ...(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer's hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
                    ...(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

                    (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

                    So, an AR .22LR Pistol will either be able to accept a detachable magazine and have a magazine that attaches at some location outside the pistol grip, which would make it an assault weapon, (4)(D)

                    OR

                    an AR .22LR Pistol will have a fixed magazine (via Bullet Button) in which case is cannot have a capacity to accept more than 10 round without it also being an assault weapon. (5)
                    you bolded the wrong part.

                    edit: wait, is there no distinction between centerfire and rimfire for handguns?
                    We in Bangor, Maine now baby.

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                    • #11
                      hossb7
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                      • Jul 2006
                      • 3285

                      well ****. i stand corrected.
                      We in Bangor, Maine now baby.

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                      • #12
                        Decoligny
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                        • Mar 2008
                        • 10615

                        Happy to shed light on the subject if it keeps someone out of jail.
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                        • #13
                          mcat707
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2346

                          Originally posted by morrcarr67
                          No you can't.

                          An AR style pistol needs a magazine lock of some kind for it to be legal in CA. If a gun has a magazine lock it can only have a 10 round or less magazine in it.
                          You're forgetting some members here live out of state and also some CA members bring their toys to free states. So yes you can.

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                          • #14
                            Decoligny
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                            • Mar 2008
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                            Originally posted by mcat707
                            You're forgetting some members here live out of state and also some CA members bring their toys to free states. So yes you can.
                            You are also forgetting that this is CALGUNS.NET, and we deal with California gun laws here. This is not NEVADAGUNS.NET or OHIOGUNS.NET, so answers that deal with out of state shooting need to SPECIFY that.

                            Unless a question is put forth asking "Can I do this in (insert state here)?", then it is to be assumed that the question pertains to California.

                            If someone asks "Is it legal for me to shoot my full auto Ma Duece in the desert" here on CALGUNS, then the answer better be "Not legal per CA Penal Code XXXXXXX."

                            It should not say, "Sure go ahead, I shoot mine all the time!", when the person answering the question lives in Nevada.
                            Last edited by Decoligny; 03-22-2013, 12:54 PM.
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                            • #15
                              mcat707
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                              • Feb 2009
                              • 2346

                              Originally posted by Decoligny
                              You are also forgetting that this is CALGUNS.NET, and we deal with California gun laws here. This is not NEVADAGUNS.NET or OHIOGUNS.NET, so answers that deal with out of state shooting need to SPECIFY that.

                              Unless a question is put forth asking "Can I do this in (insert state here)?", then it is to be assumed that the question pertains to California.

                              If someone asks "Is it legal for me to shoot my full auto Ma Duece in the desert" here on CALGUNS, then the answer better be "Not legal per CA Penal Code XXXXXXX."

                              It should not say, "Sure go ahead, I shoot mine all the time!", when the person answering the question lives in Nevada.
                              So in reply to your comment above...we are both correct. Anything else you would like to add?

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