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  • #46
    jumbopanda
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2006
    • 8382

    Just try to find a deal on an old Glock. Cheapo guns are fine for fun at the range, but if you're going to use this as a "just in case" gun, you want something that's known for reliability.
    Mo' BBs.

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    • #47
      Brandon04GT
      In Memoriam
      • Feb 2011
      • 3016

      Maybe you should just bump your budget up to $350 some dollars and wait for a deal on a used XD9 and be done with it?

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      • #48
        drifter2be
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 2177

        Originally posted by warbird
        i always went towards the hi-point pistols and they have a lifetime warranty so you cna send them back to the factory for repair or to just reassemble them if you get curious and take them apart and can't get them back together. i took mine apart and put it back together just fine. these guns are affordable, never found one that did not fire, are accurate the length of a house which all you need anyway if you are claiming self defense. They are not pretty or fancy but get the job done. If you have to surrender a gun to the cops you probably won't get back under one excuse or another would you rather it be a $150 hi-point (What i bought mine for in the bay area) or a $1000 dollar Colt? Look at the private sales forum and see which guns come up for sale the most often. If they were that good why is everyone selling them and moving on to something else? Also Hi-points are American made. Where is your S&W or Colt made? check out the country of manufacture on the side next time you are looking at revolvers and pistols. Ruger is U.S. made the last I heard but it is something to consider if you like buying American from Americans providing jobs for Americans. Just some thoughts.
        Lifetime warranty is great until your $150 block of metal jams or fails on you when you NEED it to work.

        Your logic is just flat out flawed on why people are selling their "nicer" guns in the FS section, quite frankly I see junk like hi points for sale all the time out here in AZ. Usually because they realized what a piece if crap it really is.

        There are plenty of US gunmaker that still make their guns in this country, if that is your main concern. If someone is willing to trust their life to a $150 gun then kudos to them, I'd sooner throw a Hi-Point at a bad-guy's head than trust it to go bang. I personally think my life is worth the possibility of having a nice expensive gun rust away in a police evidence locker. Amazed that someone would think keeping a nice gun out of a police evidence locker is more important than having a 100% reliable gun to defend themselves or their loved ones.
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        "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.

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        • #49
          Q619
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1223

          For $395, Glock is as cheap as I've bought. The only reliable sd gun I can get cheaper is a very basic scattergun.

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          • #50
            TANK1135
            Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 288

            Originally posted by Springfield45
            Check out the surplus Tokarev's. They are going for the $200 range. And surplus ammo is fairly cheep.
            The 7.62x25 surplus is all but dried up.If it does comeback it won't be cheap.Better a CZ in 9x18

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            • #51
              CrippledPidgeon
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 1765

              Originally posted by warbird
              i always went towards the hi-point pistols and they have a lifetime warranty so you cna send them back to the factory for repair or to just reassemble them if you get curious and take them apart and can't get them back together. i took mine apart and put it back together just fine. these guns are affordable, never found one that did not fire, are accurate the length of a house which all you need anyway if you are claiming self defense. They are not pretty or fancy but get the job done. If you have to surrender a gun to the cops you probably won't get back under one excuse or another would you rather it be a $150 hi-point (What i bought mine for in the bay area) or a $1000 dollar Colt? Look at the private sales forum and see which guns come up for sale the most often. If they were that good why is everyone selling them and moving on to something else? Also Hi-points are American made. Where is your S&W or Colt made? check out the country of manufacture on the side next time you are looking at revolvers and pistols. Ruger is U.S. made the last I heard but it is something to consider if you like buying American from Americans providing jobs for Americans. Just some thoughts.
              Your logic baffles me. The reason why people on this board don't sell their hi-points is because they can't sell their hi-points. Heck, you couldn't give me a hi-point because then I'd have to admit to owning a hi-point. I would much rather buy a more expensive pistol like a Glock, and run it hard, as opposed to a hi-point, which I'd be afraid of the slide suddenly becoming a projectile while practicing.

              And last I checked, you still need to input USA for country of origin when DROSing S&W and Colt firearms.
              Last edited by CrippledPidgeon; 11-12-2012, 4:40 AM.

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              • #52
                RedFord150
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2009
                • 5665

                I chose a Bersa Thunder .380acp for this need. I paid around $270 new plus tax and fees and feel I got more than I paid for (by a lot).
                I also bought a Jennings J22 and a Taurus Revolver in the past for the same need and I was very dissappointed. Both are long gone.
                The Maverick 88 12 gauge Pump is on sale at Big 5 through today for $199.99. This is the 7 + 1 capacity with a 20" barrel. I do not own ome, but have heard it is well worth the money. I do own the Mossberg version off this SG and am very please.
                Good luck.
                God Did Not Create All Men Equal, Colonel Colt Did.

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                • #53
                  toby
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 10576

                  Do you really want to own a $200 handgun??

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                  • #54
                    zfields
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 13658

                    Originally posted by TANK1135
                    The 7.62x25 surplus is all but dried up.If it does comeback it won't be cheap.Better a CZ in 9x18
                    Still some new ammo being made. 7.62x25 has some interesting ballistics, which seem a bit of an advantage for a "truck" gun.

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                    • #55
                      AaronT
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 50

                      Magazine springs are a non issue. My dad has a S&W firestar that has been loaded with the same hollow points since the early 90's. i pull them out every few months when I take it to the range and it feeds great. It is still VERY strong which is amazing to me. Also like everyone said, if it's an emergency gun, I wouldn't want to be trusting my life or familys life with a 200$ hipoint. I say invest a few extra hundred on a Glock or M&P. Even used glocks can be found for around 350$ if you keep a good eye out.

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                      • #56
                        Bobby Ricigliano
                        Mit Gott und Mauser
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 17439

                        Originally posted by ICONIC
                        ruger p89
                        My first handgun and still one of my favorites. However, you are not going to find one of these classics for anywhere near $200.

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                        • #57
                          Bobby Ricigliano
                          Mit Gott und Mauser
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 17439

                          Originally posted by toby
                          Do you really want to own a $200 handgun??
                          No. The only $200 firearm I would want to own would be a Ruger 10/22 or a Mosin Nagant. Neither would be an ideal HD weapon.

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                          • #58
                            Bobby Ricigliano
                            Mit Gott und Mauser
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 17439

                            Originally posted by CrippledPidgeon
                            Your logic baffles me. The reason why people on this board don't sell their hi-points is because they can't sell their hi-points. Heck, you couldn't give me a hi-point because then I'd have to admit to owning a hi-point. I would much rather buy a more expensive pistol like a Glock, and run it hard, as opposed to a hi-point, which I'd be afraid of the slide suddenly becoming a projectile while practicing.

                            And last I checked, you still need to input USA for country of origin when DROSing S&W and Colt firearms.
                            I hate to sound snobbish, but I wouldn't own a Hi-Point either. Regardless of one's economic situation, a handgun that might be used to save your life or that of your family is no place to skimp. ANYBODY could save up enough to get at least a Sigma or beater used Glock which would be infinitely better than a low-brow junk gun.

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                            • #59
                              someR1
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 2932

                              Hi-point c9. Mine will eat ANYTHING besides hallow point. You can throw it in a bucket of sandy water and it will still fire.
                              "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
                              - George Mason

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                              • #60
                                knucklehead0202
                                Veteran Member
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 4087

                                high points are as reliable as glocks, and only slightly uglier. that said, i'd never be seen with either of them. choice, ultimately is yours but i'd go shop things in a reasonable price range and see what feels best.

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