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  • #91
    lechiffre
    Junior Member
    • May 2011
    • 18

    He'll win until the recognition mechanism in the new gun fails and the gun cannot be fired by him in a moment of need.


    To me, that was the whole point of the gun in the new movie: marketing the stupid recognition system that restricts the gun's use to a pre-encoded user's palm print (or something like that).

    FAIL.
    FAIL

    This movie is full of references to older 007 films. The "palm reader" is a nod to "Licence To Kill"(1989).

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    • #92
      Euphoria526
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 3812

      Hell, I clapped as well for the nods to classic films. I just don't think bond should be a dark brooding character. I am very aware that's how the books were written, but what we all know and love as bond is quite the opposite. Not depressed and brooding, but suave and sophisticated.
      There is no sophistication in brooding, just adolescent negativity.
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      • #93
        locosway
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        • Jun 2009
        • 11346

        Originally posted by HighLander51
        No, just the pad of the finger. Correct on the left, on the right, the gun will turn

        Finger placement is excusable during a gun fight, especially given that he's laying in top of a BG and shooting in some unconventional position.
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        • #94
          SilverTauron
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2012
          • 5699

          Originally posted by JeremyS
          It's certainly sort of weird and complicated, considering the Daniel Craig films take place in current day, but these are more or less "prequels" to all of the movies that were already made. The movie series started with "Dr. No" even though "Casino Royale" was the first book. This is why you see Daniel Craig first becoming a 00 in Casino Royale. It's the birth of Bond. He isn't polished, he hasn't chosen his drink, etc. He's killing witnesses before they talk, girls are dying, he's much more rash and physical instead of mental... all that stuff. We've basically gone back to the beginning. BUT... yeah, throwing in the fact that it's modern day makes it a little weird to do prequels but you get the point, right? Daniel Craig didn't lose the P99 because he never had it. I guess.

          It's like back the the future stuff here hahaha



          Perhaps.

          In my estimation, I think the P99 went down the road because the movie staff wanted a more recognizable prop. A PPK is iconic Bond, so every layperson can ID the classic pistol even if they're not gun nuts. A P99 to the average Joe looks like a Glock .

          While I doubt Ion Productions cares about realism, in point of fact some units like 1SFOD-D do use .380s when the job requires them to be armed in non-permissive environments like foreign countries with strict gun laws.
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          • #95
            supersonic
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2007
            • 5885

            Originally posted by HighLander51
            at least he is using a Glock, course he has way too much finger on the trigger..

            Maybe he is in the process of firing it?

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            • #96
              berg
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1963

              Originally posted by Dead*Reckoned
              Was the flash hider on upside down or not?
              Yes the HK416 that Moneypenny had when she shot him was not well done. The optic mount was clumsy and the flash hider was upside down. None of it really mattered in the scheme of things and hardly anyone would have noticed or cared about that.

              I looked at it as she was portrayed as semi-competent in the field (driving the Range Rover poorly, shooting a moving target and hitting the wrong guy, etc), so having a less-than-perfect rifle went along with it, intentional or not.
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              • #97
                scootle
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                • Oct 2010
                • 2702

                Originally posted by berg
                Yes the HK416 that Moneypenny had when she shot him was not well done. The optic mount was clumsy and the flash hider was upside down. None of it really mattered in the scheme of things and hardly anyone would have noticed or cared about that.
                Don't think it was meant to be a HK 416 exactly (note the lack of colored markings on Eve's rifle), but the birdcage was definitely put on upside-down... the armorer for the prop must have been asleep on the job. Tsk tsk.

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                • #98
                  Horton Fenty
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 921

                  Watched Skyfall last night. Kinda disappointed. The movie didn't feel like a Bond movie, more like your typical Bourne spy flick. Gadgets, cars, and women are mandatory Bond items and in this movie all those things are almost non-existent. Daniel Craig's portrayal of Bond as a constant brooding and self hating individual is played out. They need to get on with making a Bond movie already.

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                  • #99
                    gorenut
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 3072

                    I think the PPK matches Bond. The P99 looked good on him and seemed more practical.. but I still imagine an all steel gun, sleek in Bond's hands.

                    I'm surprised for the hate. I mean, I can see those disappointed if they're expecting something like the older Bond movies.. but to be honest.. by today's standards they're kinda hokey. I think they did a good job balancing Bond as somewhat believable while still being mythical.. kind of like watching Anderson Silva fight. We all know he's human (and he's had his downfalls), but he still pulls out something that makes him look untouchable. Also, I think they added just enough humor. Bardem was an awesome villain and his acting is so good - everything from his little mannerisms and sudden change in moods, definitely eclipsed Craig (reminded me of Joker from Dark Knight). The cinematogrophy was gorgeous (especially the Shanghai scene), but I wouldn't have expected less from Sam Mendes (I see Road to Perdition as a modern day noir film).

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                    • Red Devil
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 800

                      Originally posted by HighLander51
                      NO, grip pressure is different than finger pad on the trigger. The only function of the right hand is for the finger to pull the trigger by just the slightest movement.
                      Then how do you shoot One-handed...?

                      (P.S. Did you watch the vid.?)

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                      • Euphoria526
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 3812

                        Originally posted by Horton Fenty
                        Watched Skyfall last night. Kinda disappointed. The movie didn't feel like a Bond movie, more like your typical Bourne spy flick. Gadgets, cars, and women are mandatory Bond items and in this movie all those things are almost non-existent. Daniel Craig's portrayal of Bond as a constant brooding and self hating individual is played out. They need to get on with making a Bond movie already.
                        I agree, but I did enjoy the small nods to the classics. But not enough to redeem the entire film.
                        Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                        I punch paper only because it is illegal to punch people.
                        Originally posted by elpaisa1
                        I think flatulence is a more serious crime. I think it should be a misdemeanor with a 1000 dollar fine or 6 months of jail. It should be a felony if done near an open flame.

                        Originally posted by Euphoria526
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                        • Paradiddle
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 1743

                          I thought it was great - very interesting and well written for a Bond fillm without too much lame flash and stupid sappy lines.

                          Of course I'm re-reading all the books in order right now and Craig is the most accurate bond of them all (Even though Connery is still my favorite - for now).

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                          • SilverTauron
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 5699

                            Originally posted by Euphoria526
                            I agree, but I did enjoy the small nods to the classics. But not enough to redeem the entire film.
                            I like the newer Bond series including Skyfall.

                            This will offend many here, but we all know the James Bond of 1960s wouldn't fit in too well with modern times. He'd have 100 STDs, no pay from child support obligations and would have been killed in action when his Q branch Plot Device failed. Craig's Bond fortunately thinks with his big head and isn't dependent on excessive gadgetry to save the day, an aspect refreshingly different from Brosnan's "invisible car".
                            The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                            The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                            -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                            The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                            • paul0660
                              In Memoriam
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 15669

                              Thank goodness he didn't have to memorize a complicated manual of arms before he used his found gun.
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                              • Lugiahua
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 1576

                                Originally posted by Euphoria526
                                Right?
                                he just tosses the gun and picks up a bg's sig AW or AK or something hahaha
                                I thought that's Liam Neeson style, not Bond.

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