Anybody heard of CZ reliability issues?

[J.D.Allen]

I love my CZ. But on another forum I asked about their long term reliability and was presented with this article

http://pistol-training.com/archives/3218

Anybody seen or heard of anything similar or had any of these issues on your own pistol?

[pc_load_letter]

Heretic!!

I kid I kid. You know what they say, opinions are like @-h0les....

Funny, I was at the Academy of St. Crispian a few weeks back. The one guy with the CZ had zero malfunctions. The guy with a brand new Glock...jammomatic.

In my meager gun experience, I've learned from these boards and from my own experience that a failure can be caused by any number of things. Perhaps these guys were limp-wristing, not properly lubed, had bad ammo, never cleaned their mags etc etc.

Who really knows.

MP

[sofbak]

Hmmmmm. I own an sp-01 tactical, and I only have about 700 rounds of .40 through it, and about 1000 rnds of .22 with the conversion slide. A lot of that n both calibers has been "hard duty" rapid fire type exercises. Except for a manufacturing issue with the .22 extractor, it has never failed to function as expected, and it eats every ammo brand I have tried-in both calibers.

There appears to be soime "bias" in that article. Let's look at a couple of statements:

Begs the question, "How could they gain this popularity and widespread use in militaries if they were as unreliable as TodG would have you believe?"

In fairness, one student got his gun working 100% on day four after replacing the extractor spring. The pistol had a little under 14,000 rounds through it when the troubles began.

14000 rounds on the original extractor spring? IDK, but that seems like a lot of use. IIRC, even Sig recommends a full service (including all springs) after 5000 rounds. Maybe he left out some details that might have bolstered his opinion.

YMMV, but mine has been all good with the tac.

[InGrAM]

He lost my interest the second he insinuated that Ford's weren't reliable.

The internet is full of *******s, haters, fanboys, and wannabees. Sad though, because I really enjoy pistol-training's endurance tests.

at least One of the CZ "owners" was using Tanfoglio "pinned" to 10 round magazines but it reads like more where using them. Kind of idiotic to base a CZ's reliability on TZ magazines that have been modified to 10 rounds... but that is me...

[zfields]

I love my CZ. But on another forum I asked about their long term reliability and was presented with this article

http://pistol-training.com/archives/3218

Anybody seen or heard of anything similar or had any of these issues on your own pistol?

If you havent noticed, if its not glock or HK, Todd hates it and its broken down every class without fail.


Not saying hes a bad shooter, bad trainer etc etc, just he has his brands, and everything else sucks. Same with a lot of the other "big" names out there.

[Bug Splat]

Well duh, he was is Canada. CZ don't work when lubed with maple syrup

Blah blah blah..... stupid write up from someone who does not even own a CZ. Pistols are a tuned machines and the author knew nothing of the pistols history or treatment. firearms are not simple systems and the owner should be to blame for its failures during class. Shooting 100 rounds through a clean pistol at your local indoor range is not a true test and dollars to donuts thats exactly how 99% of people who attend those classes show up. Nice pistol fed a nice diet of nice off the shelf ammo and then they come to class with the cheapest weakest ammo they could find on the internet then piss and moan when their guns jam and blame the gun. BS! If your gun does not work right, its your fault. Don't blame the MFG unless something breaks on the gun. Jams should be dealt with before that pistol is ever brought to a class. Tune your pistol. If you can't tune your own pistol send it to a gunsmith who can. If you don't want to pay for that then you get what you pay for. As you can tell this really is a hot button for me. I firmly believe even the cheapest of firearms can be tuned to run 100%. I pride myself on taking "cheap" guns and turning them into well tuned machines. A good mfg's reputation only proved better odds of buying a better running firearm.

[glockwise2000]

Well duh, he was is Canada. CZ don't work when lubed with maple syrup

Seriously, I have an old CZ75B and it is on it's 900 round without cleaning and it still yet to meet malfunction. Very reliable HG no matter what I feed the beast.

[NSR500]

Never a problem with my CZ or any I've come about.

[BrassCase]

I have a CZ75B SA in 40 cal. that I bought new last December. I do have jamming problems where it fails to properly eject and jams on the incoming round. I took a good look at the feed ramp and noticed a small blemish. I read here on Cal-Guns of another guy with a similar problem. If i were to go through 3 mags I would have at least one jam. At first I thought it was a problem with one of the magazines so I marked each of them and found that during a normal range session of firing around 150 rounds through it I would have jams with all three of my mags. The other guy's posting said he sent his back under warranty and they kept it for about 6 weeks, CZ polished the feed ramp and all his problems went away. When it is working properly, I really like the gun. I've fired at least 2000 rounds through it. My Beretta PX4 in 40 has over 3000 rounds through it without an issue. I plan to send mine CZ in for warranty work.

[BenHa]

~2k rounds through my CZ75B .40sw so far so good Zero issues

[TripleThreat]

During Military testing, they shot 15,000 rounds from a P-01 it only had 7 feed failures. That's the lowest failures I know of.

[JeremyS]

Definitely unfair to call a Tangfolio a CZ for this purpose. At any rate... whatever... I have a couple thousand rounds through my SP-01 with only one failure to feed. It was with an aftermarket magazine, reloaded ammo, and a friend was shooting it when it happened, so I'm writing that one off.

[DRAB_81]

I don't have any experience with CZ's, but I'm curious if anyone of you has posted anything on Pistol Training Forum to see what the author has to say? He's very active on that forum, and seems to have a lot more experience than the average Calgunner. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but why not go straight to the source?

[whipkiller]

I haven't had my SP-01 that long, and am probably only at about 1K rounds.

1K loaded, 1K fed, 1K fired, 1K ejected, and about 950 in the general vicinity of where they were supposed to go. The fliers were my fault, not the guns.

[Rorge Retson]

2K+ rounds through my SP-01 and she's purring like a champ.