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  • #16
    BrassCase
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
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    • Dec 2011
    • 3177

    Mine are factory mags. I even had a friend shoot it to see if he had the same issue and sure enough... I'm happy with it but will be even happier after I get the issue resolved.
    I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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    • #17
      darmog
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 500

      Over 3k rounds thru my CZ P-01 with only one failure to feed during the first 200 rounds of break in with Walmart UMC 9mm 250 round value pack. Fed 2 more boxes of those afterwards with no problems and then various boxes of S&B, WWB, Fed value packs, Jack Ross reloads, and Freedom Munitions reloads with no problems. Also ran 2 boxes each of Fed 147gr HST and Winchester PDX1 without a hiccup. It's got 3 handgun courses under its belt and performed like a champ. Heck, the only gun that ever beat the little guy in those courses was a full size 1911 hitting a steel gong at 80+ yards.

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      • #18
        zfields
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2010
        • 13658

        Originally posted by meathead9
        I don't have any experience with CZ's, but I'm curious if anyone of you has posted anything on Pistol Training Forum to see what the author has to say? He's very active on that forum, and seems to have a lot more experience than the average Calgunner. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but why not go straight to the source?
        There was a thread on there after the article was posted. Basically was 'they all fail, and if yours hasn't your lying or aren't a real shooter' type deal or called a fanboy.

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        • #19
          Rorge Retson
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 2712

          Originally posted by zfields
          There was a thread on there after the article was posted. Basically was 'they all fail, and if yours hasn't your lying or aren't a real shooter' type deal or called a fanboy.
          No axe to grind there!!

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          • #20
            InGrAM
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 3699

            Originally posted by meathead9
            I don't have any experience with CZ's, but I'm curious if anyone of you has posted anything on Pistol Training Forum to see what the author has to say? He's very active on that forum, and seems to have a lot more experience than the average Calgunner. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but why not go straight to the source?
            Read the posts in the link. The CZ owners that took Todd's training course used defective, non-CZ but TZ(a different gun), "pinned" to 10 rounds magazines. The "only" CZ that lasted the full "four day" course had extraction issues. BUT it had ran 14,000 rounds without failure before that. Obviously a spring is going to wear out after 14000 rounds.... That is a reasonable assumption. The point is, that Todd had no idea what was going on with those pistols before they were at his training course. Nor did he post that the magazine that were used in the CZ's were clearly a problem and needed to be replaced with factory normal capacity magazines.

            The article reads and is presented in a biased way, IMO. Any reputable firearms instructor and/or reviewer of firearms would have included that the magazine used had issues. No? A firearm is only as reliable as it's sum of parts.

            I do not own a CZ. So, I don't have any stake in this nor am I a "fanboy". I am just a guy who read an article about CZ's. I on the other had have read pistol-training.com endurance tests before and I have used them as resources to promote other pistols such as the M&P and glocks. My bias would lean towards the author not against in this case but this is a clearly biased article intended to slant the quality and reliability of CZ as a brand.
            Last edited by InGrAM; 08-28-2012, 11:46 PM.

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            • #21
              DRAB_81
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 2482

              Originally posted by zfields
              There was a thread on there after the article was posted. Basically was 'they all fail, and if yours hasn't your lying or aren't a real shooter' type deal or called a fanboy.

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              Originally posted by InGrAM
              Read the posts in the link. The CZ owners that took Todd's training course used defective, non-CZ but TZ(a different gun), "pinned" to 10 rounds magazines. The "only" CZ that lasted the full "four day" course had extraction issues. BUT it had ran 14,000 rounds without failure before that. Obviously a spring is going to wear out after 14000 rounds.... That is a reasonable assumption. The point is, that Todd had no idea what was going on with those pistols before they were at his training course. Nor did he post that the magazine that were used in the CZ's were clearly a problem and needed to be replaced with factory normal capacity magazines.

              The article reads and is presented in a biased way, IMO. Any reputable firearms instructor and/or reviewer of firearms would have included that the magazine used had issues. No? A firearm is only as reliable as it's sum of parts.

              I do not own a CZ. So, I don't have any stake in this nor am I a "fanboy". I am just a guy who read an article about CZ's. I on the other had have read pistol-training.com endurance tests before and I have used them as resources to promote other pistols such as the M&P and glocks. My bias would lean towards the author not against in this case but this is a clearly biased article intended to slant the quality and reliability of CZ as a brand.

              Fair enough. This thread has been the first time I have seen of any mention of problems with CZ's, so it's good to hear that there were other factors in play. Carry on.

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              • #22
                zfields
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2010
                • 13658

                Originally posted by meathead9
                Fair enough. This thread has been the first time I have seen of any mention of problems with CZ's, so it's good to hear that there were other factors in play. Carry on.
                Guess you never saw my thread about my 75sa having a minor kaboom. Man made product, man made issues. Barrel was out of spec.


                I'm a self admitted cz Guy, but I have some gripes over some of the design and function aspects, but for me, its still better then anything else I have come across.

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                • #23
                  DRAB_81
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2482

                  Originally posted by zfields
                  Guess you never saw my thread about my 75sa having a minor kaboom. Man made product, man made issues. Barrel was out of spec.


                  I'm a self admitted cz Guy, but I have some gripes over some of the design and function aspects, but for me, its still better then anything else I have come across.

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                  Yeah I missed that one. I'm a Glock guy, so I have a hard time believing that any other pistol besides a Glock KaBoom'd

                  I tend to keep my nose out of threads about guns I have no interest or experience with, but this one caught my attention. There's been a TON of CZ related posts lately, and all have been positive, so I had to check this out. I'm actually starting to consider buying other handguns besides Glocks, so a SP-01 might find its way into my safe someday.


                  .

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                  • #24
                    zfields
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 13658

                    Originally posted by meathead9
                    Yeah I missed that one. I'm a Glock guy, so I have a hard time believing that any other pistol besides a Glock KaBoom'd

                    I tend to keep my nose out of threads about guns I have no interest or experience with, but this one caught my attention. There's been a TON of CZ related posts lately, and all have been positive, so I had to check this out. I'm actually starting to consider buying other handguns besides Glocks, so a SP-01 might find its way into my safe someday.


                    .
                    It was more of a kerpow. Was having massive case/head seperations. Couple mag blow outs which scared me ****less. Since the swap zero issues.

                    My main cz negitive : tight chambers that do NOT like some bullet profiles. Mainly the stubby hollow points like the 124 Berry's plated. The chamber shape angles in very sharply and forces you to seat very deep.

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                    • #25
                      Zartan
                      In Memoriam
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6269

                      Mine has HUGE issues...magazines empty way to quickly, with zero problems.
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                      • #26
                        TATER313
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1481

                        My first CZ 75 I put well over 15000 rounds no malfunctions because of the gun, just a few times with a box of bad factory ammo in the late 80's.

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                        • #27
                          BrassCase
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 3177

                          I know my feed/extraction issue will get resolved. I'll try and take a picture of the ramp defect tonight and post it. My only design complaint, I know others share it as well, is that the slide release would be better if it were located back more so that I could release it with my right thumb while holding it with one hand, now I release it with my left hand while gripping it in my right hand. My Beretta and Sig are set for my right hand thumb to release the slide.
                          I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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                          Instructor: Personal Protection Inside the Home

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                          • #28
                            Rorge Retson
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 2712

                            Originally posted by BrassCase
                            I know my feed/extraction issue will get resolved. I'll try and take a picture of the ramp defect tonight and post it. My only design complaint, I know others share it as well, is that the slide release would be better if it were located back more so that I could release it with my right thumb while holding it with one hand, now I release it with my left hand while gripping it in my right hand. My Beretta and Sig are set for my right hand thumb to release the slide.
                            I am fortunate to have long enough thumbs to be able to reach it as it is, but I am with you, it would be much nicer to have the release further back. However, a beef like this is miniscule when in the context of being able to hit shot after shot on target.

                            This past Monday at the range I upped my tempo (to the limit of what my range would allow....actually past that limit a few times), and shot 10-shot groups much better than when I was shooting more slowly. That was pretty damn exciting, and speaks volumes for how natural this gun feels in my hands.

                            Can't wait for the BLM land to open back up here so I can make some steel sing once again...

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                            • #29
                              Hopalong
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 2436

                              P01 is Nato certified

                              Lot of testing for that classification

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                              • #30
                                Euphoria526
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 3812

                                So is the sp01. Duh.
                                CZ's are one of the best underrated guns out there. Screw that article it's obvious that guys a fanboy of glocks/m&p/anything polymer
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