Mine are factory mags. I even had a friend shoot it to see if he had the same issue and sure enough... I'm happy with it but will be even happier after I get the issue resolved.
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Over 3k rounds thru my CZ P-01 with only one failure to feed during the first 200 rounds of break in with Walmart UMC 9mm 250 round value pack. Fed 2 more boxes of those afterwards with no problems and then various boxes of S&B, WWB, Fed value packs, Jack Ross reloads, and Freedom Munitions reloads with no problems. Also ran 2 boxes each of Fed 147gr HST and Winchester PDX1 without a hiccup. It's got 3 handgun courses under its belt and performed like a champ. Heck, the only gun that ever beat the little guy in those courses was a full size 1911 hitting a steel gong at 80+ yards.Comment
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There was a thread on there after the article was posted. Basically was 'they all fail, and if yours hasn't your lying or aren't a real shooter' type deal or called a fanboy.I don't have any experience with CZ's, but I'm curious if anyone of you has posted anything on Pistol Training Forum to see what the author has to say? He's very active on that forum, and seems to have a lot more experience than the average Calgunner. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but why not go straight to the source?
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Read the posts in the link. The CZ owners that took Todd's training course used defective, non-CZ but TZ(a different gun), "pinned" to 10 rounds magazines. The "only" CZ that lasted the full "four day" course had extraction issues. BUT it had ran 14,000 rounds without failure before that. Obviously a spring is going to wear out after 14000 rounds.... That is a reasonable assumption. The point is, that Todd had no idea what was going on with those pistols before they were at his training course. Nor did he post that the magazine that were used in the CZ's were clearly a problem and needed to be replaced with factory normal capacity magazines.I don't have any experience with CZ's, but I'm curious if anyone of you has posted anything on Pistol Training Forum to see what the author has to say? He's very active on that forum, and seems to have a lot more experience than the average Calgunner. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but why not go straight to the source?
The article reads and is presented in a biased way, IMO. Any reputable firearms instructor and/or reviewer of firearms would have included that the magazine used had issues. No? A firearm is only as reliable as it's sum of parts.
I do not own a CZ. So, I don't have any stake in this nor am I a "fanboy". I am just a guy who read an article about CZ's. I on the other had have read pistol-training.com endurance tests before and I have used them as resources to promote other pistols such as the M&P and glocks. My bias would lean towards the author not against in this case but this is a clearly biased article intended to slant the quality and reliability of CZ as a brand.Last edited by InGrAM; 08-28-2012, 11:46 PM.Comment
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Read the posts in the link. The CZ owners that took Todd's training course used defective, non-CZ but TZ(a different gun), "pinned" to 10 rounds magazines. The "only" CZ that lasted the full "four day" course had extraction issues. BUT it had ran 14,000 rounds without failure before that. Obviously a spring is going to wear out after 14000 rounds.... That is a reasonable assumption. The point is, that Todd had no idea what was going on with those pistols before they were at his training course. Nor did he post that the magazine that were used in the CZ's were clearly a problem and needed to be replaced with factory normal capacity magazines.
The article reads and is presented in a biased way, IMO. Any reputable firearms instructor and/or reviewer of firearms would have included that the magazine used had issues. No? A firearm is only as reliable as it's sum of parts.
I do not own a CZ. So, I don't have any stake in this nor am I a "fanboy". I am just a guy who read an article about CZ's. I on the other had have read pistol-training.com endurance tests before and I have used them as resources to promote other pistols such as the M&P and glocks. My bias would lean towards the author not against in this case but this is a clearly biased article intended to slant the quality and reliability of CZ as a brand.
Fair enough. This thread has been the first time I have seen of any mention of problems with CZ's, so it's good to hear that there were other factors in play. Carry on.Comment
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Guess you never saw my thread about my 75sa having a minor kaboom. Man made product, man made issues. Barrel was out of spec.
I'm a self admitted cz Guy, but I have some gripes over some of the design and function aspects, but for me, its still better then anything else I have come across.
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Guess you never saw my thread about my 75sa having a minor kaboom. Man made product, man made issues. Barrel was out of spec.
I'm a self admitted cz Guy, but I have some gripes over some of the design and function aspects, but for me, its still better then anything else I have come across.
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Yeah I missed that one. I'm a Glock guy, so I have a hard time believing that any other pistol besides a Glock KaBoom'd
I tend to keep my nose out of threads about guns I have no interest or experience with, but this one caught my attention. There's been a TON of CZ related posts lately, and all have been positive, so I had to check this out. I'm actually starting to consider buying other handguns besides Glocks, so a SP-01 might find its way into my safe someday.
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It was more of a kerpow. Was having massive case/head seperations. Couple mag blow outs which scared me ****less. Since the swap zero issues.Yeah I missed that one. I'm a Glock guy, so I have a hard time believing that any other pistol besides a Glock KaBoom'd
I tend to keep my nose out of threads about guns I have no interest or experience with, but this one caught my attention. There's been a TON of CZ related posts lately, and all have been positive, so I had to check this out. I'm actually starting to consider buying other handguns besides Glocks, so a SP-01 might find its way into my safe someday.
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My main cz negitive : tight chambers that do NOT like some bullet profiles. Mainly the stubby hollow points like the 124 Berry's plated. The chamber shape angles in very sharply and forces you to seat very deep.
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Mine has HUGE issues...magazines empty way to quickly, with zero problems."If he won't walk, walk him...be nice"
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I know my feed/extraction issue will get resolved. I'll try and take a picture of the ramp defect tonight and post it. My only design complaint, I know others share it as well, is that the slide release would be better if it were located back more so that I could release it with my right thumb while holding it with one hand, now I release it with my left hand while gripping it in my right hand. My Beretta and Sig are set for my right hand thumb to release the slide.I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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I am fortunate to have long enough thumbs to be able to reach it as it is, but I am with you, it would be much nicer to have the release further back. However, a beef like this is miniscule when in the context of being able to hit shot after shot on target.I know my feed/extraction issue will get resolved. I'll try and take a picture of the ramp defect tonight and post it. My only design complaint, I know others share it as well, is that the slide release would be better if it were located back more so that I could release it with my right thumb while holding it with one hand, now I release it with my left hand while gripping it in my right hand. My Beretta and Sig are set for my right hand thumb to release the slide.
This past Monday at the range I upped my tempo (to the limit of what my range would allow....actually past that limit a few times), and shot 10-shot groups much better than when I was shooting more slowly. That was pretty damn exciting, and speaks volumes for how natural this gun feels in my hands.
Can't wait for the BLM land to open back up here so I can make some steel sing once again...
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So is the sp01. Duh.
CZ's are one of the best underrated guns out there. Screw that article it's obvious that guys a fanboy of glocks/m&p/anything polymerOriginally posted by Jimi JahI punch paper only because it is illegal to punch people.Originally posted by elpaisa1I think flatulence is a more serious crime. I think it should be a misdemeanor with a 1000 dollar fine or 6 months of jail. It should be a felony if done near an open flame.
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