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  • #46
    Echidin
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 3072

    Originally posted by WWDHD?
    How about the S&W 1911s? I have a RIA Tac now (my first 1911) and although I'm still learning about this platform the S&Ws I've looked at seem pretty nice to me. How do they compare in overall quality to SA ,Kimber and Sig?
    Like bombadillo mentioned above SW1911s are some of the nicest production 1911s out there, if you don't mind the external extractor. I know there are a few calgunners who own them and love them, myself included.

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    • #47
      Grof
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 49

      1911

      Went today to a big gun dealer and looked couple different brands. Dealer told me that 1911 springfields are made in Brazil and he said that Kimber is better pick , also he said that guns for sale from Colt are old technology ?? California is hella expensive any gun that is hand fitted is like close to 2K or more. Looked also on S&W but don't like external ejector, will see, have to go this weekend to see some other dealers and talk to them ... thanks guys for suggestions.
      grof

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      • #48
        Sac-AR15
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 881

        I have 4 SA 1911's and have never had any issues with any of them. A Sig Scorpion is also a good choice for something under $1200. Accurate and reliable. I paid $999 for mine.
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        • #49
          ZX-10R
          Veteran Member
          • May 2010
          • 4122

          Colt...Then Kimber.

          Why you have SA on your list and not Colt is the real question.
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          • #50
            keenkeen
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2011
            • 6782

            Originally posted by Grof
            Went today to a big gun dealer and looked couple different brands. Dealer told me that 1911 springfields are made in Brazil and he said that Kimber is better pick , also he said that guns for sale from Colt are old technology ?? California is hella expensive any gun that is hand fitted is like close to 2K or more. Looked also on S&W but don't like external ejector, will see, have to go this weekend to see some other dealers and talk to them ... thanks guys for suggestions.
            grof
            LOL...sound like that dealer is only about 70% full of C***...not bad compared to some.

            "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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            • #51
              keenkeen
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2011
              • 6782

              Just rescanned this entire thread and wanted to warn you to beware of anyone who says "Only get brand X" or "Never get brand Y"...

              I own 1911s from every mfg listed on this thread (other than the Remington) and they all have pluses and minuses. Follow the advice of those who have said to buy what you like and feels good to you.

              Avoid the advice of the 'Brand X Fanboys' and the 'Brand Y Haters', they generally are full of it and/or have an axe to grind.
              Last edited by keenkeen; 07-13-2012, 4:10 PM.
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              • #52
                Meety Peety
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 3216

                I'd personally go with a DW, but if you are somehow limited to your list by time/money/availability I'd go with the Sig. If you don't mind waiting it out you can find some really good deals here and elsewhere.. especially for something you might want that is just a bit out of your price range when buying it new. I picked up a like new (Looked unfired) CBOB for $1050 not long ago.. when you figure $50 for the extra pair of sarge's grips that came with it, it was a really good deal. Granted that won't be typical, but there have been a lot of nice 1911s going up for sale lately, might be worth it to hold out for the right one.
                "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." - Albert Einstein

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                • #53
                  John Browning
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2006
                  • 8089

                  Originally posted by Grof
                  Went today to a big gun dealer and looked couple different brands. Dealer told me that 1911 springfields are made in Brazil and he said that Kimber is better pick , also he said that guns for sale from Colt are old technology ?? California is hella expensive any gun that is hand fitted is like close to 2K or more. Looked also on S&W but don't like external ejector, will see, have to go this weekend to see some other dealers and talk to them ... thanks guys for suggestions.
                  grof

                  Never, never, never ask a gun dealer what to buy
                  . They're the most clueless bunch and they have a vested interest in making the most money possible, not getting you the best gun for you. Do some research on the internet and ask around here. I have no interest in anything other than helping you find a nice gun. Dealers want you to spend as much money as possible.

                  I can't say anything bad about Springfield, S&W or even RIA. I can say something bad about Kimber, but I'll let Hilton Yam (who is a 1911 god) say it for me:

                  Situs berisikan info menarik seputar resep masakan, dunia rumah, desain interior, kesehatan, kecantikan, kebugaran


                  I'd stay miles away from Kimber.
                  Last edited by John Browning; 07-13-2012, 5:01 PM.
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                  Originally posted by KWalkerM
                  eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.

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                  • #54
                    Meety Peety
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 3216

                    I will also add that the whole "Whatever feels best in your hand" fad is kind of a misnomer. What they should be telling you is to go out and actually fire each gun and decide which one is overall best for you. Simply feeling great in your hand does not make a gun a good buy, you may end up hating it. For instance Glocks feel absolutely fantastic in my hand, however, I hate shooting them. Bottom line is while I think they look good and feel great in my hand, I hate firing a Glock, so I wouldn't go out and buy one. In fact I've bought two hoping/thinking it would grow on me. It didn't and I took a loss when selling both of them. That aspect aside, it must be said that no one can tell you which gun will suit you the best, nor can we tell you what brand is the best, because it all comes down to opinion.

                    Since you likely won't find the exact models that you are considering buying available for rent, you are likely to end up having to make a choice based on the opinion(s) of people you've asked.. so I'll give you the reasons that I picked DW as my first choice for a budget of around $1200, which was right about what I had to spend when I bought my CBOB. Steel frame, first and foremost. Dws come with a match grade barrel as well. fitment, tolerances and finish are all superb and (IMO) unmatched until you enter Baer territory. Lastly, I had previously owned a DW 1911 and had wanted a Bobtailed commander ever since I could remember.
                    Last edited by Meety Peety; 07-13-2012, 4:28 PM.
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                    • #55
                      highpowermatch
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 2434

                      Originally posted by Grof
                      Was at the dealer and checked 3 brands , springfield, kimber, and SIG,
                      budget is around $1200 and all guns are almost the same price. This is my first gun and all of them are nice, best fit in hand is SIG it is like glove don't know why soon as I take it it feels like it is there all the time. Can anyone give me any info on this 3 guns and which should I buy, or any other option (1911 only ). tnx
                      Go with what fits your hand, all three are fine weapons.

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                      • #56
                        jonzer77
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 8525

                        Like others have said, you are right in the middle with $1200. You can get a Colt XSE or Springfield loaded for under $1000 and have a great gun with a lot of features. You can spend $1500 and spend more and get a good gun as well but not really worth the extra compared to the XSE or loaded.
                        Originally posted by barrage
                        That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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                        • #57
                          jeffrice6
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 5172

                          Originally posted by jonzer77
                          Like others have said, you are right in the middle with $1200. You can get a Colt XSE or Springfield loaded for under $1000 and have a great gun with a lot of features. You can spend $1500 and spend more and get a good gun as well but not really worth the extra compared to the XSE or loaded.
                          I disagree....... http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=595115
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                          • #58
                            jonzer77
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 8525

                            Originally posted by jeffrice6
                            It's all a matter of opinion but your average shooter won't be able to notice. For a first gun I would take a gun and ammo and enjoy it then to drop so much on a first gun since 45 is expensive enough. The ideal thing would be to spend $1000 on the gun and the rest on reloading equipment and really shoot the gun.
                            Originally posted by barrage
                            That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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                            • #59
                              liberallyloaded
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 1027

                              Kimber custom ii was my first firearm... 600 rounds through it so far, and it's been flawless. After reading all the ridiculous kimber hate on the internet, I was pretty nervous. The only thing I would change is... Well, I got night sights installed (shout out to CC Gunsmithing for a job well done!). So if I were you, I'd get the tle. Just my 2 cents... However, My second firearm was a 9mm ria tactical (thanks to EBR works!). whatever you get, shoot the hell out of it and enjoy it!
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                              • #60
                                BlackDrop50
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1024

                                Originally posted by scobun

                                Never, never, never ask a gun dealer what to buy
                                . They're the most clueless bunch and they have a vested interest in making the most money possible, not getting you the best gun for you. Do some research on the internet and ask around here. I have no interest in anything other than helping you find a nice gun. Dealers want you to spend as much money as possible.

                                I can't say anything bad about Springfield, S&W or even RIA. I can say something bad about Kimber, but I'll let Hilton Yam (who is a 1911 god) say it for me:

                                Situs berisikan info menarik seputar resep masakan, dunia rumah, desain interior, kesehatan, kecantikan, kebugaran


                                I'd stay miles away from Kimber.
                                That page is funny because my Kimber Raptor is at 8000 rounds with only spring changes. I run 600-1000 rounds without cleaning and it always runs like a champ.

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